How to increase this stitch

[HollyM]

Hi!
I don't know if I'm brain dead today or what.

I want to make a triangle shawl using the Fan stitch in Donna Koolers Encyclopedia of Crochet (pg 141) I really like the way the fabric looks but I don't know how to get a triangle started. I like to work from the bottom (in case I run out of yarn!) but for the life of me, I can't figure out how work out the increasing. <img border=0 src="http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/crochetville/banghead.gif" />

Any thoughts?????

Holly

[rebeccav]

i don't have that book (yet) does copyright keep you from posting the instructions?

i'd be glad to help you out :fluffy

[HollyM]

Ummmm, I get scared about copywrite <g>

Seems that fan stitches can mean all sorts of things.

I did find this that has the same basic look
<a href="http://www.chezcrochet.com/page0028.html" target="_new">V's in a row</a>

The main difference in what I'm looking at is is you do
(2 dc-ch 1-2 dc) in the same stitch then skip 4 stitches for the next one.

Clear as mud lol!

Holly

[rebeccav]

are you going to be putting any sort of border on this or fringe???

here is what i have come up with (this may be totally off from what you are wanting:p )

ch 7, sl st to form ring, in same st, ch 3 dc ch1 2 dc, sk next ch, in next ch (2dc,ch1, 2dc).
ch3 turn, in top of ch3 (dc, ch1, 2dc) sk 4....... :blah

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/rebeccav/crochet/help.jpg
this is what it looks like - although the beginning corner looks a little off, if there is going to be a border or fringe, it won't matter...:shrug oh, i also ch1 in between fans because i wasn't sure.....
i also think the "peak" that is in the center of it now, will decrease as it grows....... i think:thinking1

[HollyM]

Rebecca,
I love you!!!! <img border=0 src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/crochetville/rowofhearts.gif" />

Yes, that is exactly what I was going for!!!

Let me get a few rows done & I'll show you a pic

Holly

[rebeccav]

i had another thought:

is the fan supposed to be in the ch1 space of the one below it, or in-between 2 below it??? because i think that would change the look a lot and might even get rid of the "peak" thingy ????? hmmmmmm

[HollyM]

Hmmm
It's not working so well. When I get to the 3rd row & beyond it gets wonky, it's growing in width much faster than hight (it's probably me lol!) <img border=0 src="http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/crochetville/shrug.gif" />

The original stitch does call for the next row to be worked in the ch 1 sp between the 2 dc but I thought your version looked cool.

I suppose I should stop being stubbon and just use one of the 9000 shawl patterns already out there.

Thanks so much for trying to figure it out for me though!!!!!

Holly

[rebeccav]

is there a ch between the shells/fans ? or does it go from one straight into the next???


now i just gotta figure this out... i'm stuborn (did i spell that wrong:huh ) that way ----

hey we need a donkey emoticon too
(donna's gonna kick me out :lol )

[HollyM]

Stubborn??? What's stubborn??? <img border=0 src="http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/crochetville/cutewink.gif" />

You are a sweetie for doing this for me. I know there has got to be a way to do it and it's going to be a huge DUHHHHH moment when I finally see how to do it <img border=0 src="http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/crochetville/banghead.gif" />


There is no ch between each 2 dc ch 1 2 dc cluster.

Ok, I'm going to type out the stitch directions. I don't think it's copyright violation because it's not a pattern. If I'm wrong, just let me know and I'll delete it.


Ch multiple of 5 stitches + 2
Row 1 turn, ch 2 Sk 3 chs of base ch *in next ch (2 dcs, ch 1, 2 dcs) sk 4 chs* repeat from * to * across ending with dc in last ch.

Row 2 Turn. Ch 2, sk 3 dcs, *Over ch1 ( 2 dcs, ch 1, 2 dcs), sk 4 dcs* repeat from * to * across, ending with sk 2 dcs, dc in turning ch..

repeat row 2.

Holly

[Tiffany]

I don't know how well this would work, but you could start at the top, making Row 1 as long as you want the shawl, and then start decreasing with Row 2. I don't know if it would be easier to figure out decreasing with the stitch instead of increasing, but I hope this helps! :)

[rebeccav]

okay, a new version:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/rebeccav/crochet/help2.jpg

this is what i did:

same ch 7, sl st to form ring, dc in same st ch 1 2dc, sk 1 ch, in next ch 2dc ch1 2dc,
ch 3, dc in same stitch. in ch 1 sp of previous row 2dc ch1 2 dc across


NEVERMIND = NOT WORKING>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> STARTING AGAIN

[rebeccav]

ch 3, sl st to form ring.

ROW1 - ch3, dc ch1 2 dc in ring.

ROW2 - ch 3 turn, dc in first dc. in ch1 sp of prev row, 2dc ch1 2dc, 2 dc in top of ch3.

ROW3 - ch 3 turn, (dc ch1 2dc) in first dc in ch1 sp of prv row, 2dc ch1 2dc in top of ch3(2dc ch1 2dc)

ROW4 - ch 3 turn, in ch1 sp of prv row(2dc ch1 2dc across). dc in top of last dc (or ch3-i forgot which it is:p )

ROW5 - ch 3 turn, dc in same st. in ch1 sp of prv row(2dc ch1 2dc across). 2dc in top last dc (or ch3 :p )

ROW6 - ch 3 turn, in top of 1st dc(dc ch1 2dc). in ch1 sp of prv row(2dc ch1 2dc across). in top of ch3 (2dc ch 1 2dc).

repeat rows 4-6 for pattern.....

:woohoo i think that makes a good increase....
you like?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/rebeccav/crochet/help3.jpg

i got all excited thinking i might have created a pattern, but the more i look at it,,,, the more familiar it looks :p :thinking1 :lol

[HollyM]

Oh no!

Please don't drive yourself nuts!!
My fingers are already wrinkly with all the time I've spent in the frog pond today <img border=0 src="http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/crochetville/frog1.gif" />

I wanted this for a belated b'day gift for my cousin. In the mean time, I've started a few rows of the <a href="http://web.************/web/20001019063123/www.cei.net/~vchisam/groovy/7706.html" target="_new">groovy fringed shawl</a> and I'm really liking it so far. It works up in the same "around the edge" way as the Seraphina shawl but it doesn't take as much concentration. I wasn't thrilled from the picture on the site but then I saw <a href="http://www.yarnicopia.com/archives/00000036.htm" target="_new">Ro's</a> which made me like it a lot more!!!
I think I'm going to do big tassels at the points instead of fringe.


I have a feeling the answer to the whole increase problem could be in the way this pattern is worked but I'm too frustrated to experiment any more.

Holly

[HollyM]

By george I think you've got it!!!!! <img border=0 src="http://img28.photobucket.com/albums/v84/crochetville/faint.gif" />

We must have been typing at the same time, I put that up before I saw your last one.

Thank you so much. I still like the groovy shawl but I'm going to try yours too!!!!

Holly

[rebeccav]

that is really cute and hey, no worries - i like trying to figure stuff out like that :) improves my skills :frog

i'm going to keep going on the last post... see how it goes :pig

[Donna]

hey we need a donkey emoticon too
(donna's gonna kick me out :lol ) LOL, Rebecca, I'm not gonna kick you out! :p :lol I must admit, you had me stumped with the donkey emoticon. But it looks like Julie's got you covered (http://p084.ezboard.com/fcrochetvillefrm42.showMessage?topicID=21.topic).

[rebeccav]

i saw him! :)h it!!!
that's me, an all around :donkey


EDIT: after i re-read that, i realized it should have said,

that's me, an all around :donkey mule! stubborn as they come

:frog

[HollyM]

I love the mule!!!

Too cute!!

Holly