Butterfly Shawl Crochet Along from knit.1 mag [Archive]

funkyreporter

July 3rd, 2006, 10:00 PM

:cheer Okay, Hookers, it was suggested in another thread and here it is:
The Butterfly Shawl Crochet Along!!!!!!!

The pattern is in the Vogue Knitting publication knit.1, Summer 2006, Art Issue.... here's a link to the magazine www.knit1mag.com (http://www.knit1mag.com) . If you click on the link, then click on "in this issue" and you'll see four pictures. Click on the one in the top left corner, the lady with the funny hat and too much lipstick, and you'll see THE SHAWL!!!!! I think the designer is Noreen Crone-Findlay (if I'm reading this right) and it's a BEAUTY!!!

It is done in motifs, 21 butterfly motifs and seven triangle motifs, so it would be a good 'take-along' project and then it has some fancy-smancy way of attaching them together so there is a lot of lacey look to it, as you can see in the picture...

So, I'm starting it... anybody else interested, let me know, otherwise I'm gonna feel really stupid doing a Crochet Along by myself!

Incidentally, if you're hesitant to buy a knitting magazine just for one crochet pattern, the magazine is AWESOME! It has interesting articles including the graffitti knitters and also a story about the battle over the name Stitch N Bitch and a display of beautiful textile arts!

Enjoy!!!!!

December 22nd edit: If anyone is joining us at the beginning of 2007 or is new to this thread or missed this info, there is a correction to the smaller triangular butterfly here http://www.hankeringforyarn.com/the-crocheted-butterfly-shawl-the-correction-for-the-triangular-butterfly/
and also if you need the pattern the magazine is becoming more difficult to find but I did find a source for the Summer 2006 Art Issue of knit.1 magazine here http://www.jimmybeanswool.com/secure-html/onlinegen/currgen/Vogue/VogueKnittingInternationalMagazine.asp?showLarge=t rue&specPCVID=7096

Looking forward to lots of Butterfly Shawls for Spring of 2007! Imagine them flowing in the breeze.... ah, just lovely....

aurora

July 4th, 2006, 03:35 AM

I'm a REALLY new crocheter. I really want this shawl. D'ya reckon I'd be able to do it? Or should I not bite off more than I can chew at this early stage?

Lisaizme

July 4th, 2006, 03:43 AM

Noreen's website where she talks a little about designing the shawl is at

http://www.crone-findlay.com
edit.. that's her main page.. where the shawl is talked about is on her blog (http://www.hankeringforyarn.com/). (I should know better than to post at 1am)

I just asked her what weight of yarn was recommended for this shawl (because I dont have the pattern yet) and here's what she told me:

Lion Brand crochet cotton. I used 12 balls for it. I used 4 strands held together for the butterflies at the center, and 1 strand for the background mesh. If you make a shorter fringe, you will not need so much cotton.......
:o)

Aurora.. I don't know how hard it will be... but give it a whirl.. their will likely be lots of us to help you once this gets started.

Now I better get to bed so I can get to Michaels tomorrow. :hook

angelfire

July 4th, 2006, 07:22 AM

looks really nice

GinaLaughed

July 4th, 2006, 08:38 AM

Uh-oh....I smell trouble a brewing in this house!!! :yes

I really, really, really want that shawl! I haven't finished my other CAL's yet. I haven't even worked on them in AGES! Dare I start yet another project? What will dh say? :think

I'm probably going to join you. I don't know if my LYS will be open tomorrow but I'll check it out and I'll try JoAnn's too. Think of me....I'm going into battle just asking to go to either of these places! ;) (It wouldn't be so bad if I could finish what I start...dh is pretty tolerant and usually gives in to my every whim...but like I said...I haven't even worked on any of my other CAL's in ages.)

artemis

July 4th, 2006, 09:43 AM

Oh, I think I'm in!
My sister has asked for a black shawl to wear on cool summer evenings. This is just what I imagined...except I cannot imagine giving away that beautiful work of art.
I think it would look okay in black. What do you all think?
I like Lion Brand Crochet Cotton and I've seen the magazine everywhere, so I'll get it and have a go at it.
I won't be starting until I get back from the CGOA convention on the 16th. I've got homework I have to do for that and a pink top whose seams and edging need to get done so I can wear it there on Saturday when everyone wears pink for breast cancer awareness.
Thanks, Paulette, for putting us on to this. I don't think you'll be crocheting alone! And I know I will be laughing at your every post!

funkyreporter

July 4th, 2006, 11:23 AM

OH, this is exciting!!!! I'm so glad that others are as enthralled with this beautiful shawl as I am!

In reply to the query in an earlier post, I think it would look splendid in black, and I cannot imagine giving it away.

Also, to the newer crocheter pondering as to whether they'd be taking on too much, I think this would be okay as it's done in 'little bites' - 20 motifs I think - so if the first couple don't look so great you could eliminate them from the ones that go into the final item!

I love the link that was put up to the designer's site... the picture of her showing the back of the shawl with the trees in the background is breathtaking!

Oh, I must decide on a color now! Part of me wants to do a nuetral or white yet I'm eyeing this lovely salmon color that I bought a while back for no apprent reason.... decisions, decisions...

Lisaizme

July 4th, 2006, 02:23 PM

Oh wow. I emailed Noreen last night that there was a CAL starting for her shawl and she said she would have to join C-ville and join the CAL. She didn't get to keep her own shawl that she sent to Vogue :eek and needed to make another one.

Wouldn't that be cool to have the designer working with us??!! :cheer :c9

I don't think I"m getting to go to Michaels today.. storming and I don't like to get on the roads on a holiday. Maybe I'll just find somewhere to buy it locally. :) If it's meant to happen, it will happen. I have faith.

Lead on fearless Leader (aka *****'s Mom.. :lol )

Lisa

Noreen Crone-Findlay

July 4th, 2006, 02:55 PM

Hello :)
I'm Noreen Crone-Findlay, the designer of the Butterfly shawl. After Lisa emailed me to tell me that there's a crochet along happening on the shawl, I decided that it would be a great idea to join in! I would love to have the shawl as well,
(LOL! I don't get to keep most of the things I design!) so..... this is a great opportunity to get going on one for me!
I am just going off to chat about it on my blog: www.hankeringforyarn.com
hugs all round,
Noreen :yes

AmyS

July 4th, 2006, 04:29 PM

Welcome to Crochetville, Noreen! We are so glad to have you here.

:woo

artemis

July 4th, 2006, 04:48 PM

This is too cool! Thank you for joining us Noreen!
I purchased the magazine at the grocery store today. The shawl is beautiful and it was good to see some additional views.
I did notice that is is ranked as an expert level piece. That doesn't scare me...although I am far from expert! It does mean that I'm glad we will all be helping each other.
Yum, yum, yum...I can't wait to get started...but not until after convention!!!

gemini53

July 4th, 2006, 05:32 PM

:manyheart I want play too! I always read Noreen I remember her from the Cloth doll magazine I have one of her books. I am excited:yes

Lisaizme

July 4th, 2006, 05:42 PM

I'm working on making a button for this.. as soon as Noreen says yea or nay on using one of her images, I'll get started.

If someone else has more experience in making buttons.. I'll most GLADLY bow out and let them do it.

funkyreporter

July 4th, 2006, 05:44 PM

This is so wonderful to have you with us, Noreen!:nworthy Your talent is amazing and I loved reading on your blog how you 'create' the butterflies...

I am so EXCITED! This will be a challenge, but I figure in 'little bites' and support from each other it should be a wonderfl experience!

Thank you so much for joining us on Crochetville!:yay

Noreen Crone-Findlay

July 4th, 2006, 06:48 PM

Thank you so much, Amy!
I look forward to being part of the community!
I am going to be slightly delayed on joining in on the crochet a long, as I have to spin the yarn for the shawl first! LOL!
hugs
Noreen

Lisaizme

July 4th, 2006, 07:42 PM

Here's the button such as it is. I only have paint (well, I do have photoshop.. but I dont like it much, overly complex for my needs) and I'm not very experienced at making buttons.

Anyone who wants to do a better one, please go ahead.

Thank you Noreen for letting me use your image.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/Lisaizme/blogger%20stuff/BSCAL2.jpg

Please upload to your own server (photobucket, flickr, webshots, whateveryouuse). Thanks!!!

Noreen Crone-Findlay

July 4th, 2006, 09:00 PM

:c9
Hi everyone!
I am new to the whole forum thing, so I'm on a learning curve here!
I am so delighted with the positive response to my design!:yay
I've just posted a few more notes........
and will be posting more as the CAL progresses!
Butterfly hugs all round!
Noreen:yes

funkyreporter

July 4th, 2006, 09:03 PM

Noreen, it is such a thrill to have you join us as we pay homage to your beautiful design!

I just sat down to make my first butterfly and his head came out a little wonky so I'm gonna give it another shot until I get the 'feel' of it! That's how it goes for me with most patterns... a bit of frogging until I get it right!

Noreen Crone-Findlay

July 4th, 2006, 09:05 PM

:lol Lisa, I had the image of a tiny jade frog being stitched into the Butterfly shawl somewhere along the fringe! :clap
Hope the next one 'clicks' for you!
hugs
Noreen

funkyreporter

July 4th, 2006, 09:05 PM

I'm a REALLY new crocheter. I really want this shawl. D'ya reckon I'd be able to do it? Or should I not bite off more than I can chew at this early stage?

Aurora, I say GO FOR IT!!!!! I think you'll do fine and of course we'll help you along... and with the designer on board this seems like a perfect opportunity to expand your crochet horizons!:clap

GinaLaughed

July 4th, 2006, 11:52 PM

Ohhhhh....I'm so excited about the CAL. DH likes the shawl and I have the go ahead to buy yarn and mag without having convince him that I need it! :clap

:welcome Hi Noreen! I am so thrilled that you are joining us! I think you will love it there at the 'ville. I keep trying to give it up because I have so many things to do but there's so much inspiration here that I just can't leave. The 'ville is just home...ya know? :)

I didn't get to the LYS today...I don't think it's open today. I don't know if I can get it before Friday as we have been so broke lately. I can't wait to get to my LYS. I'm going to pamper myself and buy some realy feel good yarn. Everything I've made since I've been crocheting has been for someone else (except for a small scarf I needed last winter) so now is the time for me!

Lisa....you did a fantastic job on the button. :cheer I wish I had time to snag it right now so I can put it on my blog, but my kiddos want to go see fireworks and I still have to get ready real quick.

funkyreporter....thank you so much starting this CAL! I never read knit magazines and I would have never found this. What a treasure. I think I'll starting picking up knitting mags a little more often now. :)

Noreen Crone-Findlay

July 5th, 2006, 01:03 AM

Thanks so much, Gina!
and where can I see the button?
This is all so new to me that I am peddling as fast as I can!
BTW, I have just uploaded a series of posts to my sacred dollmaking blog, showing how I made a wooden one of a kind doll in celebration of a wonderful old doll that my splendiferous daughter found for me at an antiques mall....
it's on http://www.sacreddollsandbears.com/
Fun!
hugs all round
Noreen

Lisaizme

July 5th, 2006, 01:14 AM

Thanks so much, Gina!
and where can I see the button?
This is all so new to me that I am peddling as fast as I can!

button is here:

http://www.crochetville.org/forum/showpost.php?p=407442&postcount=16

you're doing great for just starting at C'ville. It's a big place, but everyone is friendly & helpful.

:hook

Lisaizme

July 5th, 2006, 10:08 AM

Paulette, You've already started? wow.

I'm still trying to decide on yarn. Too bad the Lion cotton only comes in white & ecru.

I'm looking at some at elann .. some hemp http://tinyurl.com/rfpnf that is beautiful, but I probably won't let myself afford it.

I will probably go with Sonata http://tinyurl.com/ptbhn

or Pharoah http://tinyurl.com/rzyut because they are just alittle more economical. I may even have some sonata in my stash.. I shall have to check.

I really like the colors of the hemp tho. Considering making the butterflies in the sapphire moon blue and then connecting them with the dream blue (IF that would work.. still have yet to get the pattern..:lol )

What yarn/thread and color are ya'll using? I know Noreen is spinning up a storm.. she and I may be ready to start at the same time. :)

funkyreporter

July 5th, 2006, 10:35 AM

Well, Lisa, I sorta started:think ... I chose to use #10 cotton thread in the color natural (I know, sounds boring) but I love the look of Noreen's finished shawl and I also wanted the challenge of holding the four strands together, and I want to be able to wear this with as many outfits as possible because it's so beautiful! I've done that with yarn, holding three strands, but it was a Q hook - this is a bit different!

I'm off to a rocky start here... I keep getting a wonky body and I want to figure that part out before I start attaching wings! Shelle is always patient with me - she understands my learning curve and said she'd help me!

Tell you a little secret: I got a bit flustered and this burgundy alpaca yarn kept jumping into my lap and nuzzling up against me and it BROUGHT ITS OWN PATTERN!!! Boy, yarn these days. So I started the Lizette Shawl which is gorgeous and also seems to basically be a huge doily with arm slits! It's done in trebles and chains so it's going super-fast, and I of course have no problem having many WIPs going, so I will start again with Madame Butterfly tonight with a fresh approach!

Noreen Crone-Findlay

July 5th, 2006, 01:29 PM

Hi Everyone
Lisa, I have my silk blocks on order, but they aren't here yet, so nope, I am not spinning on it yet....... but, boy when they get here! LOL! Look out!

BIG NEWS! My editor said that they made a mistake in the pattern! I have posted the url for the correction on my blog at www.hankeringforyarn.com

I will be out of the studio all day, and won't have a chance to get to it till later, but I will work up a square right away and make sure that they have got it right, now............

I will go through the magazine instructions point by point to see where they slipped up, and let them know if there is still a problem, and will certainly let you know, too!

I hate it when this kind of thing happens, and hope that it hasn't messed people up!

By the way, I am also thinking that saphire blue wings and black body would be wonderful.......

I'll be looking for pearls soon for my daughter's wedding shawl...
hugs
Noreen
www.crone-findlay.com

christinacoghill

July 5th, 2006, 09:34 PM

After seeing Noreen designed this shawl I am getting this Knit 1 issue. I must have missed it when I looked thru it briefy at the Yarn store. It is lovely and i must have one!

Lisaizme

July 5th, 2006, 10:56 PM

I'm off to a rocky start here... I keep getting a wonky body and I want to figure that part out before I start attaching wings! Shelle is always patient with me - she understands my learning curve and said she'd help me!

Tell you a little secret: I got a bit flustered and this burgundy alpaca yarn kept jumping into my lap and nuzzling up against me and it BROUGHT ITS OWN PATTERN!!! Boy, yarn these days. So I started the Lizette Shawl which is gorgeous and also seems to basically be a huge doily with arm slits! It's done in trebles and chains so it's going super-fast, and I of course have no problem having many WIPs going, so I will start again with Madame Butterfly tonight with a fresh approach!

Well... where is Shelle? She needs to be on this CAL.

And I dont suppose there is anyway I could get you to post a pic (or even a link to the pattern would be good) of the Lizette shawl?

Golly.. I'm such a shawlaholic

And you posted somewhere else that you haven't seen a Seraphina shawl? oh my.. we have to fix that. It's a great pattern, Doni, the creator even put pics up of the shawl in progress.....

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/donisfuff/croshawl.html

Wondering.. is Lion cotton size 10 thread or something else?? I have found gobs & gobs of speedcrosheen today............(probably too thick)

I MUST get to town and buy this pattern book.. if only life didn't get in the way.

funkyreporter

July 5th, 2006, 11:35 PM

Here's the link to the Lizette Shawl Crochetville thread 'cause I wanted to show how pretty it is and in the initial post I put a link to a the gal who sells them on eBay, Carol Christmas I think...

http://www.crochetville.org/forum/showthread.php?t=29885&highlight=pretty+shawl

Lisaizme

July 6th, 2006, 12:02 AM

That reminds me sooooooooooo much of a sweater shawl pattern I have. I need to go find it and see if they are essentially the same. The pattern I have is by a lady named Dorothy something or anohter.. I think. short & long term memory problems here.. :)

GinaLaughed

July 6th, 2006, 03:24 AM

Well, Lisa, I sorta started:think ... I chose to use #10 cotton thread in the color natural
I wanted to do this in thread but I was thinking of #3 instead of #10. Doesn't the pattern call for superfine yarn? How much do you thinking making this in #10 or #3 thread will affect the size? I haven't fully decided on what I'm going to do yet. I went to my LYS today but they didn't have the mag! :eek Oh the horror of it all! ;) At least I got a chance to familiarize myself with some beautiful yarn! I was holding some really yummy mercerized cotton (I think it was superfine) and I thought that it had a very nice feel for my shawl but i don't know.... :think Decisions, decisions, decisions...

Just before you posted about this CAL, I had been scouring the internet looking for shawl patterns that had a soft, wispy look...kinda like mohair....do you think this shawl will look good like this one? I have no idea. I haven't worked with enough good and different yarn to know these kind of these yet.

I'm off to a rocky start here... I keep getting a wonky body and I want to figure that part out before I start attaching wings!
I was curious to know if the corrected pattern helped you out any? Any luck on this?

Tell you a little secret: I got a bit flustered and this burgundy alpaca yarn kept jumping into my lap and nuzzling up against me and it BROUGHT ITS OWN PATTERN!!! Boy, yarn these days.
Heh, heh, heh......I have some yarn like this too. :lol

GinaLaughed

July 6th, 2006, 03:38 AM

BIG NEWS! My editor said that they made a mistake in the pattern! I have posted the url for the correction on my blog at www.hankeringforyarn.com (http://www.hankeringforyarn.com)

I will go through the magazine instructions point by point to see where they slipped up, and let them know if there is still a problem, and will certainly let you know, too!

I hate it when this kind of thing happens, and hope that it hasn't messed people up!
I hate it too! What a bummer! Thanks for letting us know. I haven't even started yet so maybe all this will be worked out before I get started.

I'll be looking for pearls soon for my daughter's wedding shawl...
Just before this CAL came up (I mean like just hours before it was posted) I was looking for a soft, wispy, beaded shawl pattern. I was thinking of maybe trying to add beads to this shawl but I don't think I'm experienced enough to wing it all. I'll have to work up a butterfly and see how it works first and then go from there, I suppose. Do you have any tips for us on this?

artemis

July 6th, 2006, 08:31 AM

I was thinking of maybe trying to add beads to this shawl but I don't think I'm experienced enough to wing it all. I'll have to work up a butterfly and see how it works first and then go from there, I suppose. Do you have any tips for us on this?

Oh, I think that's a great idea. Let us know what you try.

funkyreporter

July 6th, 2006, 10:50 AM

Well, in answer to an inquiry I did attempt my first (failed) butterfly with four strands of #10 held together... it was a little too big for the F hook so I know that Noreen must have used a finer thread... but, being that I'm a little fluffy myself I figure if it comes out bigger than expected that wouldn't be all bad. Of course if my butterflies come out too big, like giant scary monster butterflies then I'll have to rethink this... maybe two strands of #10 held together... hmmm.

And, no, I haven't attempted again because that pesky four letter word WORK got in the way. I'd had some days off due to the 4th of July holiday, but now back to work and we're in trial again... so... I'm hopeful the corrections will help, too!

As for the burgundy alpaca and pattern that crawled in my lap to comfort me when the butterflies went skittery, I could do that with my eyes closed (almost) tr, ch2, tr, ch2, tr, ch2...

Lisaizme

July 7th, 2006, 12:29 AM

Noreen said it would be fine to use anything that met the gauge. I don't have my book yet, so would it be "ok" and not violating copyright to ask what gauge we are supposed to achieve here?

Hmmm Maybe that wouldn't be doable since the butterfly is so unique?

Paulette or anyone else who already has the book could you look in it and see if it has any info on gauge for this pattern that could be posted without giving away the pattern?

Thanks so much. I was wanting to go get my elann yarn/thread and see if it's usable.

I guess I'll write to lionbrand and ask them what gauge their cotton is.. hmmm I think I have about 10 or 20 skeins of some brand of thread.. baroque I think it's called.. now if I can remember WHERE it is....:rofl

someday I will post a pic of my bathtub full of yarn. My brother in law finds my bathtub to be very amusing. :D

aurora

July 7th, 2006, 12:39 AM

Okay, I'm going to give it a go! One butterfly at a time :) It's just so lovely! I just need to work out what weight #10 crochet cotton is in respect to the crochet cottons at my LYS - which aren't labelled with weights. It's the whole terminology game at work again, methinks.

Thanks for your encouragement, everyone!

funkyreporter

July 7th, 2006, 12:44 AM

OOH OOH OOH!!!!!! I think I GOT it!!!!!!

I tried using two strands of #10 and it's working! I got a body and a partial wing! :woo

Lisaizme

July 7th, 2006, 01:49 AM

:cheer :cheer :cheer

I won the auction on ebay for this book. Someone had it listed for 99 cents plus shipping. It went a lil bit more, but I'm still getting it for under what I'd pay at the store and I DON"T HAVE TO DRIVE 50 miles to Michaels!!! :cheer :cheer And no taxes!!! Man, I love sniping.

speaking of ebay.. I saw someone was selling this knit.1 issue for 20.00 the other night. I can't find that auction tonight.. hopefully someone thought better of it.. consideirng most folks are selling it for 4 or 5 bucks.

Now I can relax.. I hate waiting for auctions to end when it's something I really want.. or at a great price.

JacquiSimmons

July 7th, 2006, 05:31 AM

Where can I find the Butterfly shawl pattern please? I live in Australia and can't get the magazine here. Has the COT finished?
Jacqui

aurora

July 7th, 2006, 08:53 AM

Jaqui, have a look at your local newsagents. The magazine only arrived late last week here, so they might have taken a little while to get it in. I was in Canberra last week, and I got it there, but they've only just got it in this week at home in country NSW (we often get things a bit after the cities ;) ). I also find it gets a bit lost in the magazine section, because it is a smaller size than normal magazines. It also tends to sell out pretty quickly in larger centres. I'd ask around. It's definitely imported in here - just usually a good three or four months after it was released in the USA.

I made a butterfly! I made a butterfly! I don't know if I got gauge, but I made a butterfly! :hook

Shawnee/OR

July 7th, 2006, 07:09 PM

To you who've done a butterfly already, how did you do Row 6? The directions say to draw up a loop in sc but there aren't any sc in Row 5. I asked Noreen, too, but in case she's out this weekend thought I go to the soldiers.

Shawnee
http://www.shawneett.blogspot.com

funkyreporter

July 7th, 2006, 11:23 PM

Noreen said it would be fine to use anything that met the gauge. I don't have my book yet, so would it be "ok" and not violating copyright to ask what gauge we are supposed to achieve here?

Paulette or anyone else who already has the book could you look in it and see if it has any info on gauge for this pattern that could be posted without giving away the pattern?

I guess I'll write to lionbrand and ask them what gauge their cotton is.. hmmm I think I have about 10 or 20 skeins of some brand of thread.. baroque I think it's called.. now if I can remember WHERE it is....:rofl

someday I will post a pic of my bathtub full of yarn. My brother in law finds my bathtub to be very amusing. :D

Here's what the pattern says regarding gauge:

"The butterfly square measures 8"/20.5cm square using size F/5(3.75mm) hook and 4 strands of yarn held together"

Isn't that sad when you know you have a BUNCH of some sort of yarn and NO idea where it is? Not talking one skein, but a bunch!!!!! I wish I had an extra tub to store the yarn in... that is a really good idea!

Back to the subject at hand, I tried holding four strands of #10 thread together and that wasn't gonna happen with an F hook, so then I tried 2 strands of #10 ('cause I liked the color and I hoped Noreen wouldn't mind) and it seems to be working... of course I've only done the body and the very beginning of a wing base... so...

sakurasaku

July 9th, 2006, 09:18 PM

artemis

July 9th, 2006, 09:25 PM

I'm a little scared to try this pattern. I only started crocheting last December...but I really want to make this for myself. :hook

When you really want something, you can make it happen!

funkyreporter

July 9th, 2006, 09:42 PM

Wow, I didn't realize that this CAL started already, and there are already gazillion posts (okay, I exaggerate) on it. I would like to join, definitely. It's great that we already have information on the corrections, and that the designer herself is in on it! Noreen, I'm so glad you are with us.

Paulette, you said in the house-fell-on-my-foot thread that you finished the butterfly, so I suppose two strands of #10 thread worked fine after all? I have this Royal mercerized cotton that I want to try this on and wondering how many strands I should try my gauge on...

I'm a little scared to try this pattern. I only started crocheting last December...but I really want to make this for myself. :hook

Now, don't you be scared. We're all in this together and YOU CAN DO IT!!!! Just take it slow, "breathe in the butterflies, breathe out the bees," and if you get stuck, that's why it's a Crochet Along... and with Noreen here, I'm sure she'd clarify something - or one of us would! GO FOR IT!

:yarn Yup, two strands of #10 for the butterfly and one strand of #10 for the net to catch him in (the lacey mesh around it). I ended up with an 8-inch butterfly and it looks pretty good, too! And the lace was easy... so easy that I found myself halfway through round eight before I realized it only had seven rounds! Little light frogging there, no big deal.

Now in deference to Noreen, the designer, she used four strands on the butterfly and one strand on the lacey stuff to acheive the gorgeous look we're all going for, so I figure that would be equivilent to #20 thread. I tried using four strands of #10 with the F hook and that just wasn't happening for me. If she did use equal to #10 thread and got four strands in that F hook then she's GOOD!!! And obviously she IS good 'cause she makes all these great patterns and stuff:lol !

I'm thinking we really need to find out what the equivelent weight is of the Lion Crochet Cotton. I could not find it at Michael's or JoAnne's and on-line it was $5 a ball so I went for the Royale at $2.29... Also the site on-line didn't give a 'number' like other threads do:think .

I am pleased with how my first butterfly came out and also I like the look of the mesh - very lacey and dainty... only 27 more motifs to go.:yes

Lisaizme

July 9th, 2006, 11:33 PM

I'm thinking we really need to find out what the equivelent weight is of the Lion Crochet Cotton. I could not find it at Michael's or JoAnne's and on-line it was $5 a ball so I went for the Royale at $2.29... Also the site on-line didn't give a 'number' like other threads do:think .

I am pleased with how my first butterfly came out and also I like the look of the mesh - very lacey and dainty... only 27 more motifs to go.:yes

I wrote to Lionbrand and they replied that the Lion Crochet Cotton IS size 10, bedspread weight.

..... sitting here with a broke toe all swollen & purply (only kicked a suitcase.. not a house) and waiting on my knit.1 from ebay to arrive.

funkyreporter

July 9th, 2006, 11:57 PM

I wrote to Lionbrand and they replied that the Lion Crochet Cotton IS size 10, bedspread weight.

..... sitting here with a broke toe all swollen & purply (only kicked a suitcase.. not a house) and waiting on my knit.1 from ebay to arrive.

I cannot believe that you kick a suitcase and get swelling AND color and I drop a **** house on my foot and get teeny little mark. That is SO UNFAIR:angry .

OH, I'm sorry. I did forget to tell you I'm sorry you broke your toe. I was being selfish, I guess... you know how it goes: "Mom, Bobby broke his arm. I want a broken arm too." Did you break your toe so I would have company in my pain? If so that was really sweet of you, but you should have checked first and you'd know my foot is fine. I hope yours feels better. I found Aleve really helped a lot and the ice pack - but watch out for frost bite!

GinaLaughed

July 10th, 2006, 08:26 AM

I wrote to Lionbrand and they replied that the Lion Crochet Cotton IS size 10, bedspread weight.
Now this is exactly what I had been wondering! I was just going to ask this question today...how nice that it's already answered. :)

I had noticed that at the LB site it said that LB Croceht Cotten was 'superfine'. I'm not very well versed in yarn so I was confused as to why Paulette was using #10 thread but the pattern called for 'superfine' yarn. :confusedA Thread shawl is exactly what I had been looking for so this is excellent! :c9

In light of all that, here is my favorite site that reviews crochet thread. I hope it's helpful.

http://crochet.tangleweeds.com/thread.html

..... sitting here with a broke toe all swollen & purply (only kicked a suitcase.. not a house) and waiting on my knit.1 from ebay to arrive.
Awwww.....you poor thing! I hope it heals up real quick!

I hope your mag arrives soon. I haven't gotten mine yet because we have been soooo broke lately. We get paid once a month and we have been waiting for our check but with that blastedly l-o-n-g 4th of July holiday weekend we are still waiting and I'm fit to be tied! I want my mag and I want my yarn.....yesterday! :bang (Tantrum over...sorry about that! ;) )

Now I need to go make some :coffeeand see if that helps.

Paulette.... :sofunny

funkyreporter

July 10th, 2006, 11:29 AM

I still don't know how Noreen got four strands of #10 thread into an F hook:think ... It is possible, but...

Actually her butterflies look fuller (of course) than my finished butterfly...

I supposed I'll give it another try with four strands

gemini53

July 10th, 2006, 03:03 PM

:cheer This is awesome All my questions about thread answered. I can't find Lion brand cotton either. I could be buried alive with all my craft stuff.:hug I am scared too!:eek

Shelleden

July 10th, 2006, 03:10 PM

I'm in! I'm in! I bought some Aunt Lydia's "Denim" Quick Crochet. It's hard to work with, though, cause it keeps separating! ARGHHHH~ :thair Then I had the idea to use sport-weight yarn in colors. Here's what I've come up with so far. I need some advice. Tell me honestly, do you like the idea of colored butterflies? And what color would you use for joining them? White? Black? Or should I just stick with the beige color. (actually it's called Linen)
And a great big :welcome to you, Noreen. Thanks for joining us!! And thanks for a terrific design!
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/Shelleden/ButterflyAuntLydiadenimquickcrochet.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/Shelleden/Butterflysportweightyarn.jpg

I also made a two-toned blue butterfly, but my GD asked if she could have it, and she took it home with her before I remembered to get a picture of it. poopies. My yellow butterfly's body looks fatter than the other one! He must've been drinking too much nectar! :lol

Lisaizme

July 10th, 2006, 08:43 PM

Beautiful Shelle. I was thinking about doing the butterflies in a darkish blue (medium.. eyes are getting too old to deal easily with the really dark colors) and then the netting in a paler blue.

Look at the colors of the hemp at www.elann.com to see what I'm thinking. I think the hemp is too thick for what we want though.

:think ing:::: instead of making the body with holding multiple strands.. wonder if it would work to use a heavier weight and then switch to a lighter weight for the net? As in use a size 3 thread for the body and then size 10 for the net??

Paulette: thanks for the concern about my toe. Funny thing.. although it's swollen and purple.. it doesn't hurt much.. except if I try to bend it. Flipflops only till it's better!! Strange.. yours hurts and no color. Mine has color but little pain.

pinkroses

July 10th, 2006, 08:51 PM

very pretty butterfly. I have worked with that crochet thread. I did have some sperating. I just went with a little larger crohet hook.Pinkroses.

funkyreporter

July 10th, 2006, 08:52 PM

Beautiful Shelle. I was thinking about doing the butterflies in a darkish (medium.. eyes are getting too old to deal easily with the really dark colors) and then the netting in a paler blue.

Look at the colors of the hemp at www.elann.com (http://www.elann.com) to see what I'm thinking. I think the hemp is too thick for what we want though.

:think ing:::: instead of making the body with holding multiple strands.. wonder if it would work to use a heavier weight and then switch to a lighter weight for the net? As in use a size 3 thread for the body and then size 10 for the net??

Paulette: thanks for the concern about my toe. Funny thing.. although it's swollen and purple.. it doesn't hurt much.. except if I try to bend it. Flipflops only till it's better!! Strange.. yours hurts and no color. Mine has color but little pain.

Isn't Shelle's butterfly pretty? Mine looks sort of emaciated since I only used two strands of #10 instead of four strands.

Interesting that you mention hemp 'cause daughter Ah Leah told me she bought me some hemp yarn in a 'natural' store in Santa Cruz where she's working this summer... said I had to promise NOT to smoke it... hardee-har.

I think you could use the heavier thread and then switch to a lighter thread for the other part... it's all about experimenting, right? That's what's so fun about these Crochet Alongs - everybody showing these great versions of a great pattern!

I really am sorry about your toe... actually my foot doesn't hurt too bad - it was hurting by the end of the work day 'cause I had a shoe on all day (my signature Mary Janes) and it was swollen and my toes were getting numb. I'm just mad that I didn't get more coloring in the bruise! As far as your broken toe I think the only thing the doctors do is tape it to the next-door toe to keep it straight until it heals up. I don't think they cast toes...

sakurasaku

July 10th, 2006, 09:01 PM

I had noticed that at the LB site it said that LB Croceht Cotten was 'superfine'. I'm not very well versed in yarn so I was confused as to why Paulette was using #10 thread but the pattern called for 'superfine' yarn. :confusedA Thread shawl is exactly what I had been looking for so this is excellent! :c9

In light of all that, here is my favorite site that reviews crochet thread. I hope it's helpful.

http://crochet.tangleweeds.com/thread.html

I was going to use the Royale thread I had at hand, but after reading this review, I'm not sure if it's a good enough thread to spend a lot of effort on... What if it gets all fuzzy after the first washing? :eek Royale is not in the review, but she says Coats and Clark threads are not as good as some, except for Opera...

Well, I can at least practice making a butterfly with it and see what kind of gauge I get with size 10 thread. I can even wash the test butterfly to see how it holds up.

Shelle, your butterflies are beautiful. How can you do so many so quickly? And how many strands did you use for those? I'm a single-color person, but I like everything subtle and muted anyway. I'm sure colored butterflies can make a beautiful shawl.

Lisa, I hope your foot gets better soon...:hug

christinacoghill

July 10th, 2006, 09:30 PM

I have a varigeated wool sock yarn (Socks that rock) that I am going to see how it makes into a butterfly. I just got the magazine, used a 40% off coupon at Hobby Lobby. since the only pattern that I like is this shawl it was a great deal!

Lisaizme

July 11th, 2006, 12:12 AM

In light of all that, here is my favorite site that reviews crochet thread. I hope it's helpful.

http://crochet.tangleweeds.com/thread.html

I can't get that site to open. Tried for several hours now. guess I must be blocked for some reason.

Awwww.....you poor thing! I hope it heals up real quick!

I hope your mag arrives soon.
Thanks. I do too. I have a package waiting at the postoffice cuz my mail person was afraid of the dog that lies down for belly rubs when you get close. sheesh. Maybe that's my mag. :)

The one inside the fence.. now that's a different story. AND why she's inside the fence. :eek

GinaLaughed

July 11th, 2006, 12:56 AM

I can't get that site to open. Tried for several hours now. guess I must be blocked for some reason.

The site could have gotten too much traffic today. Wait awhile and see if you can get in later tonight or tomorrow.

I found one of the yarns she recommends, DMC Cebelia Crochet Cotton Size 10 (http://www.joann.com/catalog.jhtml?CATID=24998&PRODID=128308), at Hobby Lobby for $3.00/50g ball. I figured that I would need 23 balls and it would be $69. There's not enough balls of the same color to buy them all now but they have signs up everywhere that they will special order for you. I think I'm going to do that. I came home to order the yarn from JoAnn's but they sell it online for $4.39-$5.99/ball. Now I just have to decide on my color.

While on the hunt for the Regina (Egyptian Cotton) Mondial Thread, I found something called Splendid (http://www.theyarnco.com/brand_display/221). I've been :drool over their gorgeous threads. You can see the sheen on the yarn in the pics! It's a 'bargan basement' price or $14.95 per 110yd ball of thread! :faintI said I was going to pamper myself with thread on this one but somehow I don't think dh will go for that price! :lol

Thanks. I do too. I have a package waiting at the postoffice cuz my mail person was afraid of the dog that lies down for belly rubs when you get close. sheesh. Maybe that's my mag. :)

The one inside the fence.. now that's a different story. AND why she's inside the fence. :eek

I guess mail people are just overly cautions any more...probably a bit paranoid even. I hope it's your mag though. I just got mine tonight and I'm going to do a couple of practice butterfly's with some thread I have laying around the house. I've been dying to get my hands started on this...so why am I sitting here at the boards then? ;)

BTW....Hobby Lobby has some thread on sale for 99cents per 350yd ball. I figured the yardage and you would still need 14 balls and that would only cost $14 for the shawl. [edited to correct my math on this figure!]

Lisaizme

July 11th, 2006, 01:12 AM

Cebelia is EXCELLENT thread. I've used it for bridal purses and love the way it works up. Once you've used Cebelia it's very hard to go back to the cheaper stuff. :(

you might look at http://www.yarn-and-threadbylisa.com/Crochet%20Cottons/crochet_cottons.htm

(no relationship.. just share the same first name). She's very fast to send and very helpful. She doesn't have Cebelia, but does have Opera. Since the Tangleweeds site still won't open for me, I don't know which is the better thread.

Edit: Tangleweeds finally opened for me.. off to read and then perhaps edit this post once again.

yarn & thread by Lisa also sells on eBay.. (can't remember ebay name, but it's something like yarnlady62..) links are somewhere on her regular site.

GinaLaughed

July 11th, 2006, 03:22 AM

Decisions, decisions! :think

I think that the Opera was the #1 choice over at Tangleweeds. I'm so glad you sent me to Lisa's site! I think I'm going to go ahead and go with Opera just order my thread from her. I'll have to do that tomorrow though. I hope she has what I need.

I still can't get into the Tangleweeds site. :( Oh well....I'll try again tomorrow.)

BTW.....I'm half way finished with my first practice butterfly! She's so beautiful! I made her in several different colors since I didn't have 4 balls of the same color. :lol She's my rainbow gal! :manyheart I'll try and get a pic up when she is finished. However, I lost my battery charger to my camera :eek and I can't find it anywhere! I've looked all over the place and I'm so bummed. :sigh I've never lost so many things all at the same time before. First yarn started disappearing and now my battery charger....

'nite...it's just past midnight and I've been up since 5AM. :yawn I still want to walk on the treadmill for a bit too. I'm trying to exercise a little every day.

esta

July 11th, 2006, 11:40 AM

Hello Jacqui, Hello Aurora,
I'm in Melbourne and I'm making butterflys too.
I don't usually buy this book but I was so glad I did, when I saw this CAL.
And I found some Aussies too.:cheer Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi.

kellyv

July 11th, 2006, 02:52 PM

ok I bought the magazine and I think I have the perfect thread. Just have to find it and check. But first I have to finish my cathedral blanket, almost there!!! And then do a quick fat bottom bag for my friend who is really sick right now. Then I will start this. It looks like it will be quite challenging but fun.

GinaLaughed

July 11th, 2006, 03:40 PM

Hi kellyv!

Is that Cathedral Window CAL? I joined that some time ago but I shelved the project until I can find the right yarn. I was pulling my hair out over what kind of yarn to use. I can't wait to see your finished product!

I look forward to this CAL too. I'm trying to order my thread right now. I'm going to go with the Coats Opera. I'm working on a practice butterfly too. I have the body and one wing done so far. Now I have to do the other wing but we will be running errands all afternoon so that will have to wait till tonight.

Glad you are joining us! :)

Carousel

July 11th, 2006, 09:42 PM

Hi Everyone,
This will be my first crochet along.:yay I got my copy of the magazine yesterday after reading this thread. I then went to Spotlight and found some Aunt Lydia's Microfibre thread on special and it works up beautifully. I got several different colours and I'll use a Altin Maxi ( not sure if that's spelt right!) no.10 cotton to join them. I was thinking of making several different coloured butterflys (yellow, pink, green, lavender and blue were the colours I could get) and joining in either ecru or white. Then using only one colour for the butterflys and a verigated to join them. As you can see I have already planned to make a second shawl before even finishing the first. :devil
Off to crochet some more.
cheers
Pauline

funkyreporter

July 11th, 2006, 09:56 PM

Hi Pauline! So glad you joined us in this Crochet Along.

I'm just thrilled at the response and and having Noreen (the designer) join us is so cool.

Shelle is also doing different colors, or at least has shown me a few butterflies she's done in different colors except her grandkids keep flying away with them!

It's going to be so exciting to see everyone's different interpretations of this design with different threads or yarns, colors, hook sizes! What a fun project! And the butterfly really is not that difficult to stitch up... I was really surprised!

AUSongbird

July 11th, 2006, 10:46 PM

Shelleden

July 11th, 2006, 11:50 PM

I hadn't crocheted in nearly 20 years until two months ago so I'm far from expert but I'm game to try this too. That shawl is so-o-o gorgeous and I'm making shawls for all the females in the family for Christmas.

Wow, lucky family!! Glad you and all the others are joining in. This ought to be great! I think I changed my mind - look what I found at the Goodwill Store for $3!! I was sooo happy! See the beautiful sheen on it?! I think it's Size 10. I suppose I'll have to roll 4 balls of it to use 4 strands at once. This would be so pretty as a butterfly shawl! :yes
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/Shelleden/lavenderthreadcone.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/Shelleden/Lavenderthread.jpg

funkyreporter

July 12th, 2006, 12:15 AM

Oh, Shelle, that is SO pretty! $3????? SCORE!!!!!!!

That's going to be beautiful!

kellyv

July 12th, 2006, 12:21 AM

Wow shelle, what a find!!! And Gina yes its the Cathedral window crochet along. In fact I JUST finished the afgan about 20 min ago!!! I still cant belive I did it!!! I cant wait to start this one!!! I just have to get the thread. I thought I had the perfect thread but its not enough so I have to get different thread which I will get on Monday. I am very excited about this project and I cant beileve Noreen is joining us!!! Wow!!

Lisaizme

July 12th, 2006, 02:45 AM

GORGEOUS thread Shelle. :c9 is it really a lavendar color or is that my monitor?

Kelly.. I'm so impressed you finished the Cathedral window afghan. :cheerI hope you will post pictures.

Mine is still where it was last winter. It's so big that I can't work on it during hot weather (which leaves out at least 1/2 the year in TX). There's pictures of where I still am from a January 8, 2006 post on my blog. (link in my sig)

I finally got my Knit.1 in the mail today. Very cool stuff. I like the pineapple skirt in it too. I was thinking.. it says it's seamed up the back. I wonder if you didn't seam it if it would make a good shawl too?

I'm trying to get some work done on a Filet afghan CAL I'm involved with for another group so I can start my butterflies with an clear conscience (spellcheck)

Carousel: I have a bunch of microfiber too that I bought when our local Wallies decided not to carry the stuff any longer. Didn't know what I was buying it for at the time. Let me know how it works for the Butterfly.. it seems a little slippery to me for this.

Shelleden

July 12th, 2006, 09:57 AM

Yes, Lisa, it's a beautiful lavender. I couldn't believe I found it! They had one other cone of thread - in coral, but it was like Size 20 - way too fine for me! I don't go any smaller than 10. :yarn I love thrift stores! You never know what you're going to find. :manyheart

AUSongbird

July 12th, 2006, 02:33 PM

Never thought about checking goodwill for thread! I'll have to try that.

sakurasaku

July 12th, 2006, 05:27 PM

eurolyons

July 12th, 2006, 06:10 PM

funkyreporter

July 12th, 2006, 09:58 PM

Hey Paulette, this is an awesome shawl pattern...I'm not sure I can get ahold of the magazine for the pattern though (it is soooo hit and miss with the PX as to whether or not one can get these kinds of magazines consistently...) But I wanted to cheer you on.

Any way I could help you to get the magazine? I didn't see where you're from and not sure what you were referring to with "PX"... it's a really easy pattern, and so pretty!

funkyreporter

July 12th, 2006, 09:59 PM

I did half a butterfly and the wing is coming out too big, I think. I did try with 4 strands of Royale size 10 thread and an F hook, but the wings are overlapping each other and the body (I know that I also need to tighten the neck more, but I feel like I'm choking the poor thing!). It doesn't look as neat and clean as Noreen's butterfly, of course, but I hope as I get used to working with the thread, it gets better...

Should I change the hook size, the number of strands, or crochet more tightly in general to solve the overlapping problem? I'm finding it difficult to manage 4 strands, especially at the head, if I do it too tightly. I just can't get exactly the 4 strands to go through loops cleanly without accidentally hooking extra thread from the loops. Please take a look and give me some advice...

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mem1gui/half_butterfly.jpg

(I obviously did not weave off ends because I'm going to frog this.)

Thank you!

I had to go down to two strands of #10 - four strands just wasn't working out for me, and my butterfly neck needed more strangling, too... I've only made one (lacey mesh stuff included!) and I'm very pleased! I used one strand of #10 on the mesh part...

By the way, I LOVE the blue! Just gorgeous!

Shelleden

July 12th, 2006, 10:45 PM

I did half a butterfly and the wing is coming out too big, I think. I did try with 4 strands of Royale size 10 thread and an F hook, but the wings are overlapping each other and the body (I know that I also need to tighten the neck more, but I feel like I'm choking the poor thing!). It doesn't look as neat and clean as Noreen's butterfly, of course, but I hope as I get used to working with the thread, it gets better...

Should I change the hook size, the number of strands, or crochet more tightly in general to solve the overlapping problem? I'm finding it difficult to manage 4 strands, especially at the head, if I do it too tightly. I just can't get exactly the 4 strands to go through loops cleanly without accidentally hooking extra thread from the loops. Please take a look and give me some advice...

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mem1gui/half_butterfly.jpg

(I obviously did not weave off ends because I'm going to frog this.)

Thank you!

DON'T FROG IT!!! It's perfect! I don't see anything wrong with it at all!! You might want to do like Paulette and switch to 2 strands. I think yours looks great though. The body is laying flat - mine keeps wanting to slant & curl up on the end (I hate when that happens!:blush ). Besides, if you look at the shawl in the mag, her butterflies look "full" too. I think when you get the "netting" worked, it'll make a difference. Just my :2c :D

Shelleden

July 12th, 2006, 10:49 PM

Paulette, can you post a pic of yours? Or e-mail it to me & I'll post it. I want to see yours with the net & all. Please? Pretty please? :flower

Lisaizme

July 12th, 2006, 11:07 PM

Any way I could help you to get the magazine? I didn't see where you're from and not sure what you were referring to with "PX"... it's a really easy pattern, and so pretty!

I'm pretty sure that PX stands for Post Exchange ..ie: Military Base.

eBay has several sellers offering this magazine for sale at a not-unreasonable price, usually between 4.95 & 5.99. Just don't go to the fellah who is selling it for 20.00!!!!!!!!

funkyreporter

July 13th, 2006, 12:06 AM

Here goes... Another attempt at POSTING a picture:angry I HATE this part!!!!
If things go well, you'll be seeing my first butterfly (two different shots) with the mesh worked in but the ends not yet weaved... If things don't go well you're gonna see something resembling Mothra from the classic four-star movie Godzilla versus Mothra (one of my favorites!)

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j80/Paulette112264/brokencamera021.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j80/Paulette112264/brokencamera020.jpg

:woo WHO ROCKS???:woo

:photo Watch me BURN!!!!!! Photobucket is shaking in its boots right now... Look at those properly sized pictures! Oh, Yeah.:2rock :2rock :bounce

Anyway, on closer inspection, looks like I may have missed a stitch or 37 somewhere along the line:shrug but I LIKE it! I'm not frogging this bad puppy.... by the time it gets in there with all the other butterflies... nobody will notice!

So this is with two strands of #10 for the butterfly (which definitely needs more strangling on his neck) and one strand of #10 for the mesh... it definitely makes a difference to use the four strand as called for, but I have far too little patience for that...

eurolyons

July 13th, 2006, 04:37 AM

Any way I could help you to get the magazine? I didn't see where you're from and not sure what you were referring to with "PX"... it's a really easy pattern, and so pretty!

Hey Paulette...I live in Heidelberg, Germany as my husband is a private contractor with the military (U.S.) here. Our home in the states is in Washington State on Vashon Island. The PX is the Post Exchange, which is really kind of like a mini mall or department store so to speak. The Mega Book Mark is the book store within the PX and although it carries like 30 quilting magazines, it carries far less and sometimes none of the crochet and knit mags...

If you wanna do some kind of swap...a magazine for a german magazine or yarn or whatever...I'm game!

eurolyons

July 13th, 2006, 04:39 AM

Hey Paulette, if photobucket is giving you a hard time, why not try Shutterfly...that's what I tend to use when I post pics or at least links to pics here...they automatically resize the pics for sharing...(once you select the share online feature...)

eurolyons

July 13th, 2006, 04:40 AM

I'm sorry, one more post...that butterfly ROCKS!

Roli

July 13th, 2006, 06:37 AM

Hi Paulette. I just popped over to see how the Butterfly Shawl CAL is coming along. Your motif turned out great. It doesn't look as if you missed any stitches. Great pictures! Well, I'm off to the convention today. See ya!:)

belant

July 13th, 2006, 07:54 AM

You rock, Paulette. YOU rock! That's who! That's a beautiful butterfly!

sakurasaku

July 13th, 2006, 01:53 PM

Thank you for your help, P & S. :manyheart Your butterflies look really nice...and notice there is ample space between the upper and lower wings, and also between the wings and the body in yours.

Mine is all squished together and the parts are overlapping. The stitches are uneven and all that, too, but we won't talk about that. :lol

Paulette, I'll try 3 strands to see how it goes (it has GOT to be easier than 4!). If that's still not enough, I'll go down to 2 like you did.

Thanks again!

sakurasaku

July 13th, 2006, 01:56 PM

look what I found at the Goodwill Store for $3!!http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/Shelleden/lavenderthreadcone.jpg

What a beautiful color and what a find for $3! I can't wait to see the finished shawl.

aurora

July 13th, 2006, 08:18 PM

:woo WHO ROCKS???:woo

You ROCK! That's such a great butterfly! :clap

funkyreporter

July 13th, 2006, 09:11 PM

Hey Paulette...I live in Heidelberg, Germany as my husband is a private contractor with the military (U.S.) here. Our home in the states is in Washington State on Vashon Island. The PX is the Post Exchange, which is really kind of like a mini mall or department store so to speak. The Mega Book Mark is the book store within the PX and although it carries like 30 quilting magazines, it carries far less and sometimes none of the crochet and knit mags...

If you wanna do some kind of swap...a magazine for a german magazine or yarn or whatever...I'm game!

My Darling Husband picked up another copy of knit.1 magazine today so I can send it to you. PM me your address EXACTLY how it needs to be written 'cause I'm unfamiliar with sending things to military addresses!:blush

Shelleden

July 13th, 2006, 11:32 PM

Wow Paulette, those Flutterbys are beautiful! (that's how my daughter Nikki said butterflies when she was little - well, they do flutter by, don't they?) :lol I am so proud of you, my little photobucket-challenged prote'ge'!! You're posting pics like a pro now!
YEAH BABY, YOU ROCK! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_8_200v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm415DHUS)

http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp?pc=ZSzeb068&pp=ZNxdm415DHUS (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb068_ZNxdm415DHUS)

Lisaizme

July 13th, 2006, 11:54 PM

Well, I was about to post that Flutterby's is their original name and someone thought they'd be cute and change the name to butterfly.. but I thought I'd better double check myself and lo and behold.. this is what I found:

Etymology

The Old English word for butterfly was buttorfleoge apparently because butterflies were thought to steal milk. A similar word occurs in Dutch originating from the same belief. This is believed to have led to the evolution of its present name form - butterfly.

An alternative folk etymology, current in Great Britain, is that it originated as a contraction of term butter-coloured fly referring to the Brimstone Butterfly Gonepteryx rhamni, often the first butterfly of Spring. Earlier, it was mistakenly considered that the word butterfly came from a metathesis of "flutterby".

Lots more interesting stuff here:
http://www.answers.com/topic/butterfly

I dug through one of my unorganized baskets..trying to find my baroque thread so I could start. Found lots of other stuff..including a ball of cotton peaches & Cream that cried out to become a new dishcloth. So, I made a dishcloth today while watching Charmed. Maybe I can find the baroque tomorrow.

funkyreporter

July 14th, 2006, 12:59 AM

Lisaizme

July 14th, 2006, 01:04 AM

Ah, shucks... now I'm blushing...

Hey! An Idea! a butterfly shawl in the colors blush and bruise!

Steel Magnolias... Shelby's colors were Blush & Bashful. :rofl

Sally Field: The church looks like it's been hosed down in pepto-bismal.

Shelleden

July 14th, 2006, 01:18 AM

ooooh, I love that movie!! except the cemetery scene where Sally Field loses it. I bawl like a baby.
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Shelleden

July 14th, 2006, 01:21 AM

Well, I was about to post that Flutterby's is their original name and someone thought they'd be cute and change the name to butterfly.. but I thought I'd better double check myself and lo and behold.. this is what I found:

Etymology

The Old English word for butterfly was buttorfleoge apparently because butterflies were thought to steal milk. A similar word occurs in Dutch originating from the same belief. This is believed to have led to the evolution of its present name form - butterfly.

An alternative folk etymology, current in Great Britain, is that it originated as a contraction of term butter-coloured fly referring to the Brimstone Butterfly Gonepteryx rhamni, often the first butterfly of Spring. Earlier, it was mistakenly considered that the word butterfly came from a metathesis of "flutterby".

Lots more interesting stuff here:
http://www.answers.com/topic/butterfly Very interesting - thanks :)

I dug through one of my unorganized baskets..trying to find my baroque thread so I could start. Found lots of other stuff..including a ball of cotton peaches & Cream that cried out to become a new dishcloth. So, I made a dishcloth today while watching Charmed. Maybe I can find the baroque tomorrow.
Well, if it's baroque, maybe you should fa-ix it before you use it. :rofl

funkyreporter

July 14th, 2006, 02:40 AM

kellyv

July 14th, 2006, 03:05 AM

Noreen Crone-Findlay

July 14th, 2006, 03:25 AM

Oops.........
I hit send before I got over the wowsa-ing!
I have been writing up a storm about the butterfly shawl on my blog:
www.hankeringforyarn.com

I have been having trouble getting back into the forum, but have happily made re-entry! Yay!

You are all doing BEEEEEEEEEEE-OOOOOOOOOtifully with your shawls!

and I lust after that luscious lavender thread! Wow!

Anyhow, go check out www.hankeringforyarn.com and hopefully, there will be some answers to some of your questions!
BIG hugs all round!
Noreen :o)

sail149

July 14th, 2006, 03:29 AM

Amazing! I'm in Brisbane, in Australia, and I bought the magazine this morning at my local newsagent - I thought that I would have had to have waited for a couple of months before it appeared here. I got the last copy, and it's a bit dog-eared, but I like the shawl pattern too!
Not joining in the CAL, because I have too much on the go, but thanks for alerting me to this project - it's on my to-do list.I'll have the benefit of all your combined experience when I start - and I've already printed out the errata and stuck the page in the magazine so I don't forget!

Maureen

eurolyons

July 14th, 2006, 04:51 AM

Answered your pm with my address...you and your husband hug each other for me will ya...thanks!!!!!

sail149

July 14th, 2006, 04:52 AM

Oh, and PS: - having read the pattern, would it be feasible, instead of holding 4 strands of yarn for the butterflies, to use a thicker thread for those instead? Would 4 strands of crochet cotton, #10, be about equal to a 4-ply or an 8-ply cotton?
Unashamedly picking your collective brains here, but why not!

Maureen, watching on in interest, in Brisbane

eurolyons

July 14th, 2006, 04:55 AM

Shelle, Shelle, Shelle, are you cracking yourself up again? Are you snorting coffee out your nose onto the keyboard? We've talked about this!

So if you're Baroque does that mean you're out of Monet???

*insert rimshot* bada bing!

Lisaizme

July 14th, 2006, 08:17 AM

:rofl You ladies are just tooo funny:rofl Paulette, I love your butterflies!!! I am now in the process of trying to find thread. Any suggestions???? I am at a loss, I dont usually work in thread so when I do I use the usual. But I want to make this in really nice thread. I cant wait to get started on this!

Hi Kelly,

I agree, this shawl is too beautiful to use everyday stuff. Here's a couple of websites that might help you decide on what to use.

http://crochet.tangleweeds.com/thread.html

(tangleweeds sometimes gets hard to access.. keep trying)

http://www.hhtatting.com/category_results.cfm?Category=5

HandyHands is more geared to the tatting crowd, but they do rate the threads and sell size 10 thread.

Once you decide, a good place to buy thread (at least I've had good experience with her) is www.yarn-and-threadbylisa.com she has Opera thread which I think someone else here is considering using. (she also sells on ebay some, but mainly the discontinued things from her shop)

I've never used Opera, but I have used Cebelia for some bridal purses.. and I'll tell you it's really hard to go back to the lesser quality stuff after using Cebelia. Not only is the finished product so much less in quality.. but the "other" thread is so much rougher on your hands.

http://store.knitting-warehouse.com/crochet-thread-dmc.html
Has the cebelia and flat rate shipping.

I plan to use Baroque.. Kind of a Middle of the road thread.. because I already have alot of it.. if I can find it (does that make sense.. :yes )

Hope this helps you some in your choices.

Lisaizme

July 14th, 2006, 08:37 AM

Well, if it's baroque, maybe you should fa-ix it before you use it. :rofl

Shelle, Shelle, Shelle, are you cracking yourself up again? Are you snorting coffee out your nose onto the keyboard? We've talked about this!

So if you're Baroque does that mean you're out of Monet???

Very Punny!!!!

Steel Magnolias... Shelby's colors were Blush & Bashful. :rofl

Sally Field: The church looks like it's been hosed down in pepto-bismal.

ooooh, I love that movie!! except the cemetery scene where Sally Field loses it. I bawl like a baby.

The town where SM is/was set in (and filmed in) is only about 3 hours drive from me. We've visited there a few times. I love the town, but can't pronounce it. Natchitoches, LA

Shelleden

July 14th, 2006, 10:13 AM

Very Punny!!!!

The town where SM is/was set in (and filmed in) is only about 3 hours drive from me. We've visited there a few times. I love the town, but can't pronounce it. Natchitoches, LA

Sounds like Massachusettes with a bad head-cold. :sneeze

Noreen Crone-Findlay

July 14th, 2006, 01:15 PM

About using a thicker yarn for the butterfly and thinner yarn for the mesh:
You betcha!

Noreen www.crone-findlay.com
www.hankeringforyarn.com
www.sacreddollsandbears.com

sakurasaku

July 14th, 2006, 04:28 PM

About using a thicker yarn for the butterfly and thinner yarn for the mesh:
You betcha!

It makes frogging a lot simpler, too!

Shelle, you were right. I should have left the half-butterfly alone. Did you ever try to frog something made of 4 strands of thread together? You know how they twist amongst themselves?

It really wasn't worth it, but I wanted the thread...:blush Now I have 4 tiny badly-wound balls of thread.

I hope I don't have to frog the three-strand version!

OnceUponAHook

July 14th, 2006, 05:38 PM

From the Lion Brand site:

Lion Crochet Cotton:
Weight Category: 1 - Super fine: Sock, Fingering, Baby Yarn.

Guage:
Crochet: 28sc + 36 rows = 4" (10cm) on D-3 (3.5mm) hook.

Maybe having the weight category will help make choices. I am contemplating having this in my bag when I go to the hospital as I will have a lot of time to myself as the kids will be with their grandparents and my dh will be at work most of the time and that will give me about 2 days to myself before I come home and will still be pretty much confined to bed for about a week.

Decisions, Decisions about fibers and colors - dang - too many choices.

Lisaizme

July 14th, 2006, 05:59 PM

support@lionbrand.com
to me Jul 7
Hi,

It's size 10 bedspread weight.

With Warm Regards,

Customer Support

Lion Brand Yarn Company

http://www.lionbrand.com

support@lionbrandyarn.com

---------------------------------

You wrote on 2006-07-06 20:35:20:

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What weight is Lion Crochet Cotton: Article 770? How does it compare to size 10 crochet thread? Thank you.

GinaLaughed

July 14th, 2006, 07:42 PM

I must say that I am a bit confused on yarn for this project once again. I remember reading this at the LB site:

From the Lion Brand site:

Lion Crochet Cotton:
Weight Category: 1 - Super fine: Sock, Fingering, Baby Yarn.

Guage:
Crochet: 28sc + 36 rows = 4" (10cm) on D-3 (3.5mm) hook.
Yet LB wrote Lisa back that it is #10 bedspread weight thread. :think

Then I read this entry (http://www.hankeringforyarn.com/tips-on-figuring-out-how-to-substitute-one-yarn-or-thread-for-another/) on Noreen's blog and it doesn't look like #10 thread comes anywhere near close to the same size as LB Crochet Cotton. I even tried wrapping #3 cotton thread and it was too small too.

I have some lovely cotton yarn I bought to make a prayer shawl for my dh. It's called Cotton Fleece. Even though it states the category weight as 3 (sport weight) I wrapped it on a ruler and it was 17 wraps per inch. (The Lion Brand Crochet Cotton is 15 wraps per inch.) This yarn is a lot thicker than #10 thread yet it comes closer to the LB Crochet Cotton. I can't work up a swatch because I don't have the right hook. :(

Does any of this make sense? Any thoughts?

GinaLaughed

July 14th, 2006, 07:58 PM

Ok...I think I read the blog wrong. :blush

Someone please tell me if I have it right now...

I think the #10 thread is the Lion Crochet Cotton and the Lion Cotton is regular kitchen cotton?

Sorry....I'm just trying to figure this out. I don't know why this doesn't make sense to me.

I still want to know if Superfine and #10 thread are considered to be the same.

I'm feeling stressed because I already ordered my thread and I want to make sure I got the right thing because the Opera thread is gonna cost me even if it is on sale!

GinaLaughed

July 14th, 2006, 08:08 PM

I still have only a half a bfly! :blush I just discovered that my camera battery charger is missing so I don't know when I'll be able to get a pic up. :no I don't know what I'm gonna do...I can't find a replacement one. :( I've been losing a lot of things lately....some have turned up. I hope the charger turns up soon!

Shelle & Paulette....Your butterfly's came out so good!

Shelle: I just love the purple thread you found Shelle! What a steal!

sakurasaku: I have a half finished bfly too. I'm having trouble with hooking extra thread here and there. At one point it is very obvious in my bfly. I guess we are just going to have to practice till we get it. I think yours looks really good! I love the color!

Noreen: Thanks so much for your help on substituting yarn. I'm sure I'll get it sooner or later! :yes

sakurasaku

July 14th, 2006, 08:35 PM

Gina, it sounds like you have figured things out on your own and are well on you way. :cheer I think Opera will come out beautifully. I remember looking for that thread because I want to make that French Bistro top from the last issue of Interweave Crochet. It's supposed to be a very nice thread.

I decided to go down in the number of strands to make things a bit cleaner and easier. I probably could have stuck with 4 strands (and considering how hard it is to frog it, maybe I should have), but I'll try 3 and maybe even down to 2 like Paulette did. I'll work on it tonight.

sakurasaku

July 14th, 2006, 08:44 PM

Oh, and Gina, I LOVE NM. I've only been there a couple of times, but they are not kidding when they call it the land of enchantment. I'm so envious.

funkyreporter

July 14th, 2006, 09:37 PM

Hey Paulette...I live in Heidelberg, Germany as my husband is a private contractor with the military (U.S.) here. Our home in the states is in Washington State on Vashon Island. The PX is the Post Exchange, which is really kind of like a mini mall or department store so to speak. The Mega Book Mark is the book store within the PX and although it carries like 30 quilting magazines, it carries far less and sometimes none of the crochet and knit mags...

If you wanna do some kind of swap...a magazine for a german magazine or yarn or whatever...I'm game!

Your magazine left the Redondo Beach, California, post office today (Friday, July 14) around noon so start thinking about thread! Let us know when it arrives and also if you need help getting some thread or hooks!

There's so much information posted now about the different thread weights and pretty colors people are using (I think everyone is very envious of Shelle's pretty lavendar!) and it's so wonderful having Noreen to 'nudge' us along!:manyheart

sail149

July 14th, 2006, 11:51 PM

For someone who is absolutely NOT beginning this project straightaway, within the last two days I have bought the magazine and chosen my thread - I'm going to do it in Madame Tricote Maxi, in hot pink:

http://www.crochetaustralia.com.au/prod1031.htm

I think it will look stunning.
I'm vertically challenged, though, so my shawl will be shorter. Won't look very glamorous if it's trailing behind me on the floor!

Too much to do, too little time - isn't it great?

Maureen

Noreen Crone-Findlay

July 15th, 2006, 12:09 AM

Wailie WAILIE WAILIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh, my word! I am just appalled! I can't believe how many typos I entered when I transcribed my written
notes (for the triangle butterfly) to typed! It's humiliating! The triangle is a complete bolox. I will check the errata at the website and see if it
matches my hand written instructions. They work perfectly, but I can't understand how I screwed up the inputting so badly.
sheesh. Makes me want to run and hide! eep.
Will deal with that ASAP!!!!!!!! As I was working on it today, I thought-
Good heavens! WHERE did I put my brain when I did this? I am OBSESSIVE about checking and re-checking and re-checking instructions, and I remember going over and over and over them, so how the heck I managed to allow all the typos to go through is beyond me.
I feel like a total prat.
oh well.
hugs all around, all the same.......
Noreen

sail149

July 15th, 2006, 01:52 AM

Oh good - then it will be all sorted for me, by the time I start mine! It's so good, Noreen, that you are here with us - makes me feel very confident!

Maureen

funkyreporter

July 15th, 2006, 02:08 AM

Noreen Crone-Findlay

July 15th, 2006, 04:06 AM

Yeppers, I am working feverishly on the fix now and sending a heartfelt apology to my editor (along with the complete corrections).
I was so totally exhausted by the time I finished the shawl that I was obviously several muffins short of a panload! It was a really short deadline, so I was burning the candles at both ends and in the middle, too....
I'll see if I can get permission to print the updated correction on my blog.....

Shelleden

July 15th, 2006, 03:06 PM

That's nice of you to admit it was your mistake. You coulda just blamed it on the publisher, and we wouldn't have known! :shrug That speaks well of you! I knew I liked you right away!! :hug

Shelleden

July 15th, 2006, 03:19 PM

[quote=Noreen Crone-Findlay]Wailie WAILIE WAILIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh, my word! I am just appalled! I can't believe how many typos I entered when I transcribed my written
notes (for the triangle butterfly) to typed! It's humiliating! The triangle is a complete bolox. I will check the errata at the website and see if it
matches my hand written instructions. They work perfectly, but I can't understand how I screwed up the inputting so badly.
sheesh. Makes me want to run and hide! eep.
Will deal with that ASAP!!!!!!!! As I was working on it today, I thought-
Good heavens! WHERE did I put my brain when I did this? I am OBSESSIVE about checking and re-checking and re-checking instructions, and I remember going over and over and over them, so how the heck I managed to allow all the typos to go through is beyond me.
I feel like a total prat.
oh well.

Don't be so hard on yourself!! We 'ville members forgive you!!! But I know how you feel. I check, re-check, & re-check my written directions, too, cause I'm so afraid I'll leave out a "ch 1" or a "sk 1 dc". The only way I can be positively sure it's right is to sit down and actually make another one following my instructions as though I'm making it for the first time. You wouldn't believe how many times I've carefully proof-read a pattern and thought it was perfect - only to make another one, and inevitably find a blurb or two! It's called being human. :hook But I'll tell you what really gets my goat is when a publisher changes the way I wrote it, AND makes a blatant mistake!! Grrrr.... that's MY name on there, and I don't want people to think I don't know how to write patterns! My saddest experience was in the book "Poncho Panache" - my Tahitian Dreams pattern. They changed several things (they have a right to do so - it's in the contract I signed) and they made a boo-boo. They put dc and there's NO dc in the whole thing. It's all tr. I was so disappointed. So, there's something to be said for "Self-Publishing"! I'm going to try that for a while. My friend Carolyn Christmas self-publishes a lot of her designs, and she has so graciously offered lots of advice to me. She's a very talented designer (Gourmet Crochet). I LOVE her stuff! My best friend Paulette is making her Lisette right now - it's going to be gorgeous. Boy can I ramble or what?!:eek

funkyreporter

July 15th, 2006, 03:57 PM

Ah, Shelle.... Noreen.... I sure feel the love here!

Noreen, it must be so frustrating when the pressure is coming down and you're trying to get it into the publisher, only to find out that something's gone amiss! I think we're all gonna be making the BIG butterflies for a while,:blush so don't you worry yourself about it... we all know now to wait for the addenda and we'll just put it in our little knit.1 mags and no harm, no foul!

Shelle, thanks for your kind words on the Lisette shawl! It really is such an easy pattern - I'm almost to the beloved Pineapples! The color is great - gotta love those alpacas, been thinking about getting one of my own... just go out there and shave him when I need some yarn! or not.

I'm on vacation now AND WORKING! I'm working in my bloomers and tank top in my crochet chair, but I'm WORKING!!!! WAAHHHHHHH. I'll finish this transcript today (I went into detail about this with Shelle in an e-mail) but I have to get this blasted 300 pager done by Monday (it will be done today) and then I can get back to the important stuff... like making another butterfly... and 'shopping' through my stash for yarns that will fit the color 'bruise' which will be my second butterfly shawl! I am so excited! Does that make me weird that I think bruise colors are pretty? Yeah, I guess it does...

GinaLaughed

July 15th, 2006, 03:58 PM

GinaLaughed

July 15th, 2006, 04:06 PM

Oh, and Gina, I LOVE NM. I've only been there a couple of times, but they are not kidding when they call it the land of enchantment. I'm so envious.
I so :manyheart Northern NM! I've lived in Santa Fe before and it's my most favorite place to live! Right now I'm (unfortunately) in Southern NM. It's not so enchanting. :no Maybe growing up an hour away from here has something to do with it. Nah.....the enchantment is definitely up North. :D

When dh graduates we are trying to figure out where we want to live. I'm hoping to go back up North but we are actually considering TN. :ohdear

funkyreporter

July 15th, 2006, 05:09 PM

I feel like such a yarn dummy here. :blush One thing I did discover though, the lady at the LYS didn't know much about yarn either and she sells the yummiest of yarns! :lol

I've been learning a lot about yarn and thread for this CAL. Yesterday, I found some yarn in the thread section at Hobby Lobby that was labeled category weight 2. It looked like #3 thread size to me so I can see how super fine can be thread.

I orderd the Opera in Tea Rose from the site Lisa referred me to (thanks Lisa!). It's $2.89/ball (HL was $2.99/ball) but it was on sale 20% off. Great price! It's on backorder though. :sigh

I was thinking of changing my order and making this shawl in black. Do you think it will look ok in black? I think it might be hard to work with but I can't picture it in black. I'm thinking black because I bought 2 new outfits. One is for when my dh graduates in Dec. with his MSW. It's a very pretty med. blue. The other is a green outfit for Christmas. I thought a black shawl would work well with both of these outfits. I'm also hoping it would be the envy of all! ;)

While I'm waiting for my thread, I am practicing with some thread I have on hand. My first bfly isn't so great. Actually, it's not bad but I'm having trouble figuring out which row to attach the wings to. One wing is higher than the other. I thought I was on the right/same row as the other side but I obviously wasn't. I'm trying not to get discouraged. This is definitely a challenging piece for me. One that will be well worth it when it's done.

Good for you for continuing to try! It gets better! On Noreen's link she has a butterfly she did in black and it is beautiful - so take a look and see what you think! Personally I think it sounds gorgeous for your two upcoming events, and you will definitely be the belle of the ball!

I am going to check out the yarn site you mention to see what they have for my shawl I'm doing in the color bruise... that will be after I finish the one I'm doing in the color blah.

Also on Noreen's link she shows how she wraps the yarn around a rule and gets a count on wraps per inch... I didn't read it really close, but it definitely helps in figuring the yarn weight... I too am 'yarn challenged' when it comes to fingering weight, and lightweight and such:think

Tea Rose sure sounds pretty, though....

Noreen Crone-Findlay

July 16th, 2006, 01:44 AM

Ah, thanks so much,everyone! I really appreciate your kindness!

The last couple of years have been really REALLY intense, with meeting a ton of deadlines for magazines and books and dealing with a lot of difficult stuff (my DH's Mum has dementia, and we're her 'parents' *G*) and my sister-in-law has lung cancer and is getting heavy duty palliative chemo and radiation......... and my Dad died at Christmas and so did a dear friend....... you know how it goes sometimes! So, I'm not surprised that I made the errors - just freaked that I did! LOL!

I have got the instructions corrected now, and have sent them off to my editor, and am cringing at the blast that may well be headed my way on Monday morning.

I've asked if it's okay if I publish the correction to my blog. If not, then, I'll point everybody at the url for the correction.

By the way, I posted a really sweet little crocheted heart on my sacred dollmaking blog:
www.sacreddollsandbears.com

Back to spinning! Boy, this shawl is taking a lotta spin spin spin!
hugs all round
Noreen :o)

Shelleden

July 16th, 2006, 10:40 AM

Oh wow, I have that Creative Crocheted Dolls book!! I LOVE that book. Haven't made any yet, but I want to do so as soon as I get control of this chaos called my life. :lol You can count me in as one who does like dolls. I can't understand why anyone would dislike them. :think Thanks for that link to your blog. I'll read it some more after while. Gotta go make coffee.... I know.... I'm lazy today. It's 9:30 and I haven't even had my first cuppa yet. (you know what a cuppa is? a cuppa tea, a cuppa coffee....) Hey, it's Sunday - "my day off" - you know what that means - I get to make/start/work-on ANYTHING I want all day - with no guilt. No "Well, I need to finish this first." or "I'll just throw in a load of clothes & run the sweeper real quick." NOPE - it's "MY DAY OFF"!!! Ahhhhh, isn't it lovely?! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/28/28_1_14.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm415DHUS) http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/7/7_20_6.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm415DHUS)

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funkyreporter

July 16th, 2006, 05:36 PM

OH, I was so MAD yesterday 'cause I had to work (at home) all day long on this stupid blasted thing for work that's due Monday and I was told about Thursday (and I'M SUPPOSED TO BE ON VACATION, PEOPLE!!!!) Anyway, I didn't get to crochet at all yesterday and I finally finished the thing about an hour ago so hubby can run it into my work tomorrow since I'M ON VACATION.

It's so hot today... I'm trying to get out of my cranky mood and go make a butterfly but I'm just sitting here being hot! I know, you're wondering, How Hot Is It??? Well, folks, it is 82 degrees today!!!!! :eek I'm melting!

I was thinking of going to Michael's because it will be air conditioned inside and I can buy more thread:yarn but the thought of getting in the truck and driving for ten minutes is more than I can bear right now...:no

eurolyons

July 16th, 2006, 06:01 PM

GinaLaughed

July 16th, 2006, 06:22 PM

:neenerI did it! I did it! I made a square!!! :loco I think it's a tad smaller than 8 in. but I did it! I'm gonna practice again and go up a hook size or two for the netting. I crochet pretty tight so that might help.

I still can't find the battery charger to my camera (it's gonna really cost to replace it) :thair so I'm working on another way to share.

Paulette... I totally hear you on how hot it is! I used to live in So. Cal. and it's usually not so bad. Because of that, the place we lived at did not have AC so when it got hot you just melted!

If it makes you feel any better, I am totally melting here too. :sweatWe are in the 100's and it's been raining. Our swamp coolers :fan do not work well when it rains so it's hot and muggy! We have all been grumpy about this for over a week now...it's miserable. My family (including dh) and I ended up having shopping marathons last week because stores around here have refrigerated air and not swamp coolers. It was a nice break for us but we came home exhausted.

BTW...I just read about the house falling on your foot in another thread. I laughed about it in an earlier post because I did not realize you had actually dropped a real house on your foot! :eek I thought it was like a dollhouse or something. Oh my! I was laughing at the Murphy aspect of it all. Lisa stubbs toe and it's broken but you drop house on foot and you have a tiny mark. I still can't get over that it was a real house! :oops

funkyreporter

July 16th, 2006, 06:24 PM

You have my sympathies about the weather Paulette...we've been melting over here (although today we've had a bit of a break with the humidity...but by dinner time I was sweating...) It's tough to crochet (for me anyway) when I'm hot and miserable...

It's only around 2:30 in the afternoon here (you mentioned dinner time in your post) and I know there's a lot of places that are a lot hotter than 82.... but I'm really spoiled with the So Cal weather... My 14-yr-old son just got out of the shower after mowing the lawn and he's standing naked in front of a fan... :eek we're a pretty laid back family...

smithdls

July 16th, 2006, 10:36 PM

I would love to join the CAL for the butterfly shawl.

What do I do.:cheer

funkyreporter

July 16th, 2006, 10:55 PM

I would love to join the CAL for the butterfly shawl.

What do I do.:cheer

get the pattern - the information is in the very first posting - it's in a magazine called knit.1 available either at your local book store, yarn store, craft store, or online. If you want to choose your thread while you're waiting for your magazine then read through the thread and see what some of the crocheters are using and figure out how you want yours to look! The designer has joined us on this CAL and is putting out an addenda for the small butterfly motif as there was a printing error in the magazine, but the big butterflies are good to go!

You need a size F hook and a size B hook and #10 thread is what is recommended by Noreen...

Then start crocheting, and if you get into trouble yell for help on this thread and we'll get through it!

Glad to have you along!:hug

eurolyons

July 17th, 2006, 07:29 AM

It's only around 2:30 in the afternoon here (you mentioned dinner time in your post) and I know there's a lot of places that are a lot hotter than 82.... but I'm really spoiled with the So Cal weather... My 14-yr-old son just got out of the shower after mowing the lawn and he's standing naked in front of a fan... :eek we're a pretty laid back family...

I make my husband giggle when I get so hot I'm standing in front of either the rolling a/c or the fan and pull my top up...

Oh yeah, I know about other places being hotter...DH reads the temps and I'm like...dying here...Northern California in the Central Valley is about as bad as Arizona...a total blast furnace. Still...

Me, I'm walking around saying, 'Okay, I officially hate summer...'

sail149

July 17th, 2006, 10:06 AM

funkyreporter

July 17th, 2006, 11:32 AM

It's c-oo-old here, in "sub-tropical" Brisbane, Queensland! I miss the heat, but reading about your northern summer makes me think that perhaps I should enjoy the respite while I can, because we will no doubt have a very hot season in our turn.That is my time of year to huddle in the airconditioning and knit, crochet and tat. :)
Did a bit more research into my choice of thread. I'm still going to use the Madame Tricote in hot pink, but have gone off the idea of combining weights of cottons, because it was too hard to match the colours. Instead, I'm going to invest in a handy gadget which will wind the thread into smaller balls for me, so I won't have to cope with four rather large and cumbersome balls of thread for the butterflies.

May I ask a question of the designer? I mentioned that I need my shawl to be a bit shorter, because I am short - I was going to achieve this by making less motifs, but it occurred to me that perhaps if I were to use a fiiner thread - size 20? - and stick to the original instructions, that that would have the same end-result? Or would the shawl lose it's impact, butterfly-wise, if I did this?

I appreciate any advice you can give me .

Maureen

You're reminding me of another post recently where one of our members was surprised to learn it was winter in the Southern Hemisphere and then went onto ask if it was winter there then what month is it... if it was still July! That cracked me up, but I guess that's how strongly we in the States associate June through September with summer, kids out of school... As far as being cold I say start crocheting FAST on an afghan! And a Martha poncho (Coming Home I think one was called - free internet pattern) those are great! So warm - especially when made with two strands of Homespun held together!

AS far as making the shawl smaller, Shortie, I'm no designer but your logic works for me - IF you go down a hook size or two. If you stay with the same hook size I think you're just going to end up with emaciated butterflies the same size - but if you downsize everything - thread weight and hook size - and also Noreen does mention shortening the fringe to use less thread (not sure if that was in the magazine, on her blog, or in this thread) Can't wait to see your hot pink butteflies!!!!

sakurasaku

July 17th, 2006, 01:10 PM

Okay, I would like to join the ranks of people who have finished a square! Well, it's just a practice square, really...but I see that it gets better every time I do a wing.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mem1gui/sample_motif3.jpg (http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j67/mem1gui/IMG_5965.jpg)
(Image is clickable)

Actually, my square came out smaller than 8 inches, too. It's 7 1/4 to 7 1/2 or something around that... I, like some other people, am also vertically challenged, so I am actually happy that it will come out just a bit smaller. I think I'll stick with this hook size and it will come out just right for me.

I so :manyheart Northern NM! I've lived in Santa Fe before and it's my most favorite place to live! Right now I'm (unfortunately) in Southern NM. It's not so enchanting. :no Maybe growing up an hour away from here has something to do with it. Nah.....the enchantment is definitely up North. :D

When dh graduates we are trying to figure out where we want to live. I'm hoping to go back up North but we are actually considering TN. :ohdear

Gina, Taos is my favorite, but I would love to see the southern part of NM as well.

Can you please post the link to the site through which you purchaced the Opera thread? I am considering using it as well, especially I'm going to spend so much darn time and effort on this project.

Stay cool everyone (except for those in the Southern hemisphere...stay warm in that case) ! It's really hot and humid up here in NY as well.

funkyreporter

July 17th, 2006, 01:27 PM

SAKURSAKU, that is gorgeous! You did a wonderful job on that... please tell me that's not a 'practice' - that one deserve to be in the finished shawl! It's perfect!!!!! Love the color, too!

What thread are you using and how many strands? Your butterfly looks so full and even!:cheer

funkyreporter

July 17th, 2006, 01:39 PM

Finished another half butterfly last night... experimenting with the colors for the 'bruise' shawl (you know, to match the bruise I DIDN'T get dropping the house on my foot!)

I had gone out yesterday and bought all this thread in different shades of what I thought matched a bruise, but I think I may go with just this one variagated thread... I really love the way the colors came out. It is Royale Gemini Double Strand Crochet Thread, Size #3... on closer inspection it looks like two strands of #10 loosely wound together, but that's what I'm using on my 'blah' colored shawl, two strands of #10, 'cause I can't get it to work with four strands... no patience:blush .

So here's the pics:
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j80/Paulette112264/bruisebutt002.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j80/Paulette112264/bruisebutt001.jpg

My butterfly is definitely improving! I do need to work on better neck strangling, though... I thought I strangled him pretty good, but by the time I finished the one side his head was flopping. Oh well. Once the lacey mesh goes around he'll be holding his head up high!

So whatcha think? Is this representative of a bruise and should I take the purple, navy, dark green and burgundy thread back and trade it for more of this Frosty Green/Oasis?

sakurasaku

July 17th, 2006, 06:41 PM

My butterfly is definitely improving! I do need to work on better neck strangling, though... I thought I strangled him pretty good, but by the time I finished the one side his head was flopping

That's exactly what I'm finding. The butterfly gets better every time, but my neck is loose by the time I'm done with a butterfly. I'm looking at it thinking "What happened? I thought I really choked you up good." Mine gets loose and it looks a bit like it has a noose around its neck. :lol

Paulette, I really like the "bruise" colors and how they show in the butterfly. Your half-butterfly is quite lovely. And thanks for your kind words. I know there is plenty of room for improvement, but it IS getting better.

I used three strands of Royale size 10 thread, with an F hook for the butterfly and a 2.3 mm hook I got from my mother in Japan many years ago for the mesh. I think I may need to go a size down in the smaller hook, though.

Lisaizme

July 18th, 2006, 01:40 AM

Can you please post the link to the site through which you purchaced the Opera thread? I am considering using it as well, especially I'm going to spend so much darn time and effort on this project.

Stay cool everyone (except for those in the Southern hemisphere...stay warm in that case) ! It's really hot and humid up here in NY as well.

Opera thread is at www.yarn-and-threadbylisa.com (no association, we just share the same first name) She did have a 20% off sale.

I think HandyHands (a tatting resource site) also has Opera, but I don't know the URL to it.

....still going for the baroque.... if i ever find it.

AUSongbird

July 18th, 2006, 01:51 AM

Your family sounds like mine....clothing optional in the summertime. My 11-year-old doesn't seem to grasp the concept of changing into a swimsuit indoors. Of course, the only pool he swims in belongs to his Nana and has a 6' privacy fence, but I suspect if we took him elsewhere he'd strip at pool side the same way he does at the Nana's. :no

Weatherwise 100 degrees around here on a regular basis in the summer and if we're lucky the humidity doesn't go above 75% but we're not that lucky most summers. This year, it's really dry here in Alabama. We've not had any real rain for 7 weeks until tonight. When it mercifully rained about 3/4 of an inch, cool