US/UK Stitch Name Comparison Table

[AmyS]

US TERM UK/AUSTRALIAN TERM
Chain/Chain
Skip Over/Miss
Slip Stitch/Single Crochet
Single Crochet/Double Crochet
Half Double Crochet/Half Treble Crochet
Double Crochet/Treble Crochet
Treble Crochet/Double Treble Crochet

Let me know if any corrections/additions need to be made to this list.

I tried to make this in a table so it would be easier to read, but I can't figure out how to make it keep the formatting I want. Nowl, do you have any ideas?

[Shell]

looks a lil confusing as it is. a colour code might be easier to read? like red for US and Blue for UK or a space between etc?

Older UK/Auspatterns use an sc as a slip stitch, the newer patterns there is no sc anywhere. It's a handy way to know if a pattern is UK or not. No sc to be seen :)

[nightowl]

Hi Amy!

Sorry I didn't see this thread before -- I've been a bit busy the last couple of days with some boring household stuff :eek

I think to do a proper table we'd have to add some custom definitions to our vB code, like [table], [tr], [td] etc. so this is about the best I've come up with for now; it's just a monospaced font with some white periods as spacers between the two "columns" and a triple indent around the whole thing. It's not a very elegant solution but it works okay. . .

I really would like to see that Slip Stitch = UK Single Crochet definition changed, though. Shell is right, it's never used in modern patterns and in fact I haven't found the term "single crochet" used in a British pattern since about 1870. :lol. I don't know why this "translation" persists but I've seen it several times online and also in the new Crochet Today magazine I got last week. :( It's just wrong; our slip stitch is your slip stitch and as Shell said, we use it as a sort of instant test for online patterns; if it mentions sc, it ain't UK! :lol

Feel free to delete my post to keep the thread nice and tidy.

Smiles,

--
Nowl




U.S. TERM ................ UK/AUSTRALIAN TERM
Chain .................... Chain
Skip Over ................ Miss
Slip Stitch .............. Single Crochet
Single Crochet ........... Double Crochet
Half Double Crochet ...... Half Treble Crochet
Double Crochet ........... Treble Crochet
Treble Crochet ........... Double Treble Crochet

[Aggie May]

:cheer Sorry to be the fly in the Ointment, but British/European crochet does not generally use SC = Single Crochet. Well not in any pattern I have ever seen and I have seen millions... My mum told me millions of times, not to exagerate.
We use SS or SL ST= Slip Stitch, CH = Chain, DC = Double Crochet, HTR=Half Treble, TR = Treble, DTR = Double Treble etc. The word Crochet is generally only added to the DC.
I usually tell people that if it has a SC= Single Crochet, it is a US pattern, if it has CH1 then says to work a DC you know it is a British/European pattern.
I am not sure about Australia but NZ followed the British/European patterns and it really is only in the last 20yrs or so that US patterns have been available here, generally in magazines like Vogue Knitting and others similar.
I remember the very first one I used. I could not work out why my crochet looked nothing like the picture and where I was doing a small stitch (DC) it really needed a longer stitch (US DC which is our TR) I worked it out eventually.
Took me several times before I looked to see where books were printed, before I started, then I had no problems at all.
I liken it to learning a new language, once you become familiar with it, you can switch from one to the other very easily.
It does pay to stick to one type though, when you are learning otherwise it becomes too confusing.
When I am posting anything here, I generally use the US way because I know that there are many more Americans reading the posts.
Maybe I have confused things even more but it really is very simple when you get going.
Have fun.
Colleen.:hug

[Beaglelady]

Can anyone answer me WHY :think US and European have to be so different? Is knitting different in any way? I'm surprised it hasn't gone
universal like everything else has.

[knitted_painting]

I have no idea why it had to become different in the US... everybody else does it the european way.. I'm saying european but it's more like the rest of the world minus the US and Canada (i presume):think Knitting is also done differently in europe we knit the so called english way...(why it's called that I don't know.. I mean everybody else in Europe knits that way and it's not like england invented it..they've even found knitted items in Egyptian tombs:eek ..) and in the US and such they knit the "continental" way.. some people claim that the continental way is much easier and faster to do then the English way.. I just learned to knit the english way I didn't even know there was a different way up until recently lol

[aussiecrocheter]

This is a great site for conversions...............

http://www.crochetaustralia.com.au/webcontent3.htm#CROCHET%20STITCH%20CONVERSION%20CH ART%20-%20American%20to%20English

[LadyyOftheOak]

Knitting is also done differently in europe we knit the so called english way...(why it's called that I don't know.. I mean everybody else in Europe knits that way and it's not like england invented it..they've even found knitted items in Egyptian tombs:eek ..) and in the US and such they knit the "continental" way.. some people claim that the continental way is much easier and faster to do then the English way.. I just learned to knit the english way I didn't even know there was a different way up until recently lol

Actually when my MIL saw how I knitted, which to me is continental, she called it "German" :think And she holds her knitting needles different than any way I've seen before.... it's English in that she throws the thread with her right hand, but the needle basically lays over her thumb? :think LOL

[judianne]

This is a great site for conversions...............

http://www.crochetaustralia.com.au/webcontent3.htm#CROCHET%20STITCH%20CONVERSION%20CH ART%20-%20American%20to%20English
thank you, thank you, thank you! it's a great site!:clap :hook :hug

[waponswa]

Thanks everyone!! As to different knitting/crochet terms...it's probaly some big conspiracy to keep us from properly united our stitching forces so that we don't take over the world, or something like that. HAHA! No really...it does seem silly and while we're on the subject why can't we, in the US, go metric?! doh! It's seems like it would be so much easier, once we've adjusted. I never know how much of what goes into what, and to keep it all straight in my head. and my husband wants to know why I can't follow a recipe. sheesh!:oops

[knitted_painting]

:lol lol waponswa... yea it can get really confusing sometimes with all the different measuring names and such everywhere!:think :lol

[grinning chook]

Ohh I have to agree, why can't USA go metric like the rest of the world, they are meant to be the forerunners yet sometimes are so behind!

And would love to see one universal way to crochet as a lot of patterns don't tell you if they are USA or English.

I think I will print out all the conversion chart and laminate them and put them in a file for quick reference when crocheting.

[amdm]

Like the others who are used to switching back and forth, I also look for the term "sc" in a pattern, as an instant way of knowing whether the directions are UK or US.

[grinning chook]

I guess you could also look at how they spell COLOUR eng/aus or COLOR usa to distinguish between the two.

[meldl]

I just joined this site tonight and I already LOVE it.
I've been going crazy trying to find out what stitch is SC. (I'm in Australia)
I was following this Cleckheaton pattern that used SC a lot, and I just had no idea what it meant. I know what DC is, so I thought SC must be just like a chain, but that didn't make sense because I just ended up with all these loose bits of chain in the pattern. Yeah I know - DUMB!!! But I'm a bit of a newbie and I was trying hard!! :blush

So for non-American patterns, Single Crochet (SC) means Slip Stich.
FINALLY!!!

Thanks everyone.

[Samio]

I just joined this site tonight and I already LOVE it.
I've been going crazy trying to find out what stitch is SC. (I'm in Australia)
I was following this Cleckheaton pattern that used SC a lot, and I just had no idea what it meant. I know what DC is, so I thought SC must be just like a chain, but that didn't make sense because I just ended up with all these loose bits of chain in the pattern. Yeah I know - DUMB!!! But I'm a bit of a newbie and I was trying hard!! :blush

So for non-American patterns, Single Crochet (SC) means Slip Stich.
FINALLY!!!

Thanks everyone.

I think you are going to confuse yourself a bit there.

Ok here in Australia we use a dc instead of sc. I have never seen sc mean slip stitch here and I have been crocheting for about 15 years. I cannot remember whether I have put it in this thread before, but have a look at this site which is based at the Sunshine Coast in Qld, it has the complete lists and also diagrams which should help you

http://www.crochetaustralia.com.au/webcontent3.htm

[Aggie May]

:cheer I agree with Samio, SC is a Single Crochet USA which is a DC Double Crochet for us.
What they call a DC is actually our TR, Treble.
You will soon find that you are reading either with no problem.
My 2yr old Grandaughter went to live in France and has learned to speak perfect French in less than 2 years. She can translate French for her mother or English for her French friends.
If you think of the difference in crochet terms as learning another language, you will be fine.
have fun.
Colleen:hug

[meldl]

OK looks like I got myself confuzzed. :think
I get the US/UK conversions part, so I take it that SC isn't applicable for UK (Aus) patterns. Only for US patterns which would mean DC for us.

Right well I think I'm on track now - I hope! :P

[Samio]

Spot on. An easy way to work out straight away is a pattern is US or UK, is if there is a reference to sc. Definately have a look at the website I sent you, it will come in handy

[hooked2]

Ohh I have to agree, why can't USA go metric like the rest of the world, they are meant to be the forerunners yet sometimes are so behind!

And would love to see one universal way to crochet as a lot of patterns don't tell you if they are USA or English.

I think I will print out all the conversion chart and laminate them and put them in a file for quick reference when crocheting.

Janine,

Perhaps the word to use is "different" - not "behind"? Just because "the rest of the world" does something does not automatically make it better.....

And as far as "one universal way", I believe that symbol crochet is gradually becoming that "way." This site (http://www.hassdesign.com/StitchLegend/)uses the symbols and the names of crochet stitches.

[bjc1050]

I just purchased the Encyclopedia of Crochet Techniques which is a British publication. The diagram and instructions they show for bobbles is the same as the Leisure Arts diagram/instructions for making cluster stitches. The pattern I'm currently working is in an old (French?) Mon Tricot booklet which calls for cluster stitches consisting of 5 double crochets. Go figure! Too bad there can't be some standardization.

Beverly