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Donna
May 27th, 2008, 04:26 PM
We mentioned (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/showthread.php?t=78162) this a couple of weeks ago, and we are now excited to announce that we are relaunching Crochetville's Show-and-Tell (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=10) forum with many new subforums for different types of projects. Where there were once six subforums, we now have nearly thirty twenty-five! We think this will make browsing Show-and-Tell a lot easier and more fun.

We have volunteers organizing the many, many existing threads in Show-and-Tell. They are moving threads around from the old forums into the appropriate new forums. So if a thread seems to disappear, don't worry, it is only temporary. Thank you for your patience while we are working!

We hope you enjoy the new and improved Show-and-Tell!

Now the excitement begins!!! :hyper :yay

RachelG
May 27th, 2008, 04:48 PM
I am headed to check it out!

Edited to add: Looks good! I like the fact I can zero in on what I want to look at more easily and skip what I'm not interested in.

kookaloo_starr
May 27th, 2008, 05:35 PM
That is so much easier to navigate - THANK YOU :cheer

amylu
May 27th, 2008, 06:37 PM
It looks great! I think it will definitely make navigating easier :)
Job well done to all the ones organizing it all!! :clap:):yay

Lisaizme
May 27th, 2008, 06:38 PM
What if a post has been moved and it wasn't moved to the correct category (in my opinion)?

AmyS
May 27th, 2008, 06:52 PM
What if a post has been moved and it wasn't moved to the correct category (in my opinion)?

If it concerns a thread that you started, send a PM to Donna, and she'll consider your opinion. Some threads may fit into more than one category, so we're asking our volunteers to use their best judgment about the best fit for the thread.

Donna
May 27th, 2008, 06:53 PM
What if a post has been moved and it wasn't moved to the correct category (in my opinion)? Send me a PM, and I'll be happy to take a look at it. Thank you for asking!

darski
May 27th, 2008, 10:16 PM
I like the idea so that I can skip what I want and :drool where I like but...

... I will kind of miss finding a gem that I would not have gone looking for but it was right beside something I did go looking for... :think IYKWIM :rofl

marikamum
May 28th, 2008, 02:42 AM
I like the idea so that I can skip what I want and :drool where I like but...

... I will kind of miss finding a gem that I would not have gone looking for but it was right beside something I did go looking for... :think IYKWIM :rofl

I'm usually pretty good with the acronyms, but... "IYKWIM" :think ??? please unpack this one for me :P

P.S. I like the look of the subforums... I think... :) I still haven't had a good ole poke around, though :P

Donna
May 28th, 2008, 06:01 AM
IYKWIM = If You Know What I Mean

:)

grandmalolly
May 28th, 2008, 11:23 AM
WOW!! WOW!! (and did I say WOW!!???) I love it!

Empress Busy Bee
May 28th, 2008, 12:13 PM
I want to thank you guys for adding "Other Crafts".

:clap

faedragon
May 28th, 2008, 12:33 PM
For the noble opposition: new does not always equate to improved, changed does not always equate to better, and now having 30 sub forums instead of just 6 does not equate to easier to navigate. For me, 6 was much easier than 30 and allowed for far less redundancy. Clothing can be made from alternative materials, a poncho is clothing and it can be from alterative materials, it can also be free form, so it can be posted in clothing, alternative materials and ponchos and free form; with so many groups that apply, and wanting to make sure everyone gets to see it, who knows the best place to post so it will be seen by the most people . If it is posted in only one of the applicable subforums, people who don't check that subforum will never see it. It was just so much easier to to hit "clothing". With 24 more subforums to make navigation easier, the only thing that is made easier for me is going right past show and tell : too many different groups to look through.

Momcrochets
May 28th, 2008, 12:38 PM
Kudos to Donna and all the volunteers on such a big job! :clap

goodie2shoes
May 28th, 2008, 01:05 PM
For the noble opposition: new does not always equate to improved, changed does not always equate to better, and now having 30 sub forums instead of just 6 does not equate to easier to navigate. For me, 6 was much easier than 30 and allowed for far less redundancy. Clothing can be made from alternative materials, a poncho is clothing and it can be from alterative materials, it can also be free form, so it can be posted in clothing, alternative materials and ponchos and free form; with so many groups that apply, and wanting to make sure everyone gets to see it, who knows the best place to post so it will be seen by the most people . If it is posted in only one of the applicable subforums, people who don't check that subforum will never see it. It was just so much easier to to hit "clothing". With 24 more subforums to make navigation easier, the only thing that is made easier for me is going right past show and tell : too many different groups to look through.

DITTO ( thanks couldn't have said it better) eeeeeeeeeeeeeek 30

Empress Busy Bee
May 28th, 2008, 01:11 PM
For the noble opposition: new does not always equate to improved, changed does not always equate to better, and now having 30 sub forums instead of just 6 does not equate to easier to navigate. For me, 6 was much easier than 30 and allowed for far less redundancy. Clothing can be made from alternative materials, a poncho is clothing and it can be from alterative materials, it can also be free form, so it can be posted in clothing, alternative materials and ponchos and free form; with so many groups that apply, and wanting to make sure everyone gets to see it, who knows the best place to post so it will be seen by the most people . If it is posted in only one of the applicable subforums, people who don't check that subforum will never see it. It was just so much easier to to hit "clothing". With 24 more subforums to make navigation easier, the only thing that is made easier for me is going right past show and tell : too many different groups to look through.
A good deal of what you say is true. However in the end the admins cannot and will never be able to make everyone happy. They have to do the best they can and go with the majority. This is what the majority wanted. You can go to Board Help and see request after request for new boards. It really isn't hard to navigate now at all, in fact it's easier. Just click on the subforum you want or click on New Posts at the top. Sure a lot of things can go into more than one subforum however if you really think about it, it really is better.
You don't have to look through all the groups. I know I won't, not every day. Chances are very high I won't look through pets. I love pets and some things are cute. I just don't have one in my life at this time and don't have a need for pet items.
Even with just 6 forums, many people still posted things in the 'wrong' area so maybe this will help sort it out better.
Most people look in more forums than I think you're giving them credit for.
My own opinion is if you're just posting so "it will be seen by the most people", you're posting for the wrong reason anyway.
;)

DesertCrocheter
May 28th, 2008, 01:15 PM
Oh, I like it. Yes, it may be difficult to choose exactly which category to post your item in, but a poncho is a poncho. If there was a separate category for skirts as opposed to the rest of clothing, I'd check it out regardless. I love that we'll be able to fine-tune what we want to see. I don't crochet for dolls, so I never paid much attention to the doll items in miscellaneous (much as I appreciate crocheting something so small, which I could never do, and I have a fried who collects dolls, but it just ain't my thing). Now, there's a whole toy section so that people who really like that will see and ooh and ahh over it rather than it getting lost in miscellaneous with pet items, amigurumi, etc.

Of course, I probably will check out every sub-forum anyway, like I always did. Because you never know what will catch your eye....:lol

Thanks for all the hard work, Donn and Amy, and new Show and Tell organizers!

Patty

Pumpkinmouse
May 28th, 2008, 01:52 PM
All you need to do when you sign on is to click new posts this way you will get to see all the new items for all the catagories.... Then if you are looking for something in particular all you have to do is go to the forum and search for the item you are looking for.....

It is much easier this way with the new forum catagories and it it much easier for the administrators to control and keep clean :hook

Donna
May 28th, 2008, 01:53 PM
For the noble opposition: new does not always equate to improved, changed does not always equate to better, and now having 30 sub forums instead of just 6 does not equate to easier to navigate. For me, 6 was much easier than 30 and allowed for far less redundancy. Clothing can be made from alternative materials, a poncho is clothing and it can be from alterative materials, it can also be free form, so it can be posted in clothing, alternative materials and ponchos and free form; with so many groups that apply, and wanting to make sure everyone gets to see it, who knows the best place to post so it will be seen by the most people . If it is posted in only one of the applicable subforums, people who don't check that subforum will never see it. It was just so much easier to to hit "clothing". With 24 more subforums to make navigation easier, the only thing that is made easier for me is going right past show and tell : too many different groups to look through.

You have valid points regarding materials/technique forums (Alternative Materials, Bead Crocet, Felted Crochet, Filet Crochet, Freeform Crochet, Thread Crochet, and Wire Crochet). As our organizers are diving into their jobs, we're finding the overlap of materials/techniques forums with the other forums is becoming problematic in trying to decide where something should go. So we may not be keeping the materials/techniques forums. We've only been at this for less than one day, so we're still working out the kinks.

But I believe the rest of the forums, let's say "item type" forums, will make it easier, because people can see what they want and leave the rest. The biggest problem with the old way--only six forums--was that tons of stuff just got chucked into Miscellaneous because it didn't fit into the other five (Clothing, Babies/Children, Accessories, Home Decor, Thread Crochet), which, frankly were kind of random -- four "item types" and one "materials" forum. They were terribly far from covering even the majority of items, so Miscellaneous became bloated with a mishmash of items.

Regarding ponchos belonging in clothing, I have to disagree. Ponchos are different enough from clothing that they should be separate. I think there is a big difference between sweaters, tops, skirts vs. shawls, wraps, ponchos, and such. Plus, there are enough people that dislike ponchos and would rather not have to wade through them when browsing clothing. And ponchos don't fit well enough with shawls and wraps to put them there.

Becki
May 28th, 2008, 01:53 PM
I think the new sub-forums look great. :) Thanks, Crochetville.

mariallen
May 28th, 2008, 02:09 PM
I love all the new categories! Keep up the great work on this site. My :cheer:clap:hug:manyheart:yay to Amy, Donna & All the helpers. :c9

LondonLaura
May 28th, 2008, 06:00 PM
At first it seems a bit overwhelming with too many categories, and the print is tiny so it's harder to skim through the categories and find the one I want. And I thought I wouldn't like it.

So now a couple of hours later I've realised I just need to give it a chance, give up the preconceived ideas and maybe find a different way of browsing the forum. Break out of my comfort zone LOL.

I might miss a thread that I would've seen under the old system, but I'm sure I'll find a few threads that I wouldn't have stumbled across in the old system!

Thanks for trying to improve the forum. I thought it was great before, and I'm sure I'll think it's just as great now if not better...once I get used to it :lol

badrhinogillett
May 28th, 2008, 06:06 PM
The only time I go into sub-forums is if I'm going to start a thread. Otherwise, as soon as I get on, I click New Posts, and then I can see everything that's been posted in all sub-folders since I was on last.

Empress Busy Bee
May 28th, 2008, 06:21 PM
and the print is tiny so it's harder to skim through the categories and find the one I want.Just click on "Show and Tell" at the top of the section and it brings you to this nicely divided area that's not too tiny:

http://www.crochetville.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=201

:)

LondonLaura
May 29th, 2008, 04:37 AM
Thank you Empress Bee, I actually just discovered that and came here to update my previous post LOL. That's what I mean about giving it a bit of time.... :)

I just saw some lovely dolls clothes that I wouldn't have seen in the other system!

Shell
May 29th, 2008, 07:37 AM
The only time I go into sub-forums is if I'm going to start a thread. Otherwise, as soon as I get on, I click New Posts, and then I can see everything that's been posted in all sub-folders since I was on last.
I use the New Posts button so much more than anything else on Crochetville. If I want something specific I will use the search function, and if I want to browse then I will just pick a forum and start in the middle somewhere. I love the member search too as I often look for things by one member. You're not limited on how you use the forum, unless you limit yourself :)

In 3mths time people will forget how it was. I know when a site I've visited for years was overhauled I hated it. Now I forget why I hated it! New users will not have known anything different. There are a lot of point of views and all are valid.

wildernesswoman
May 29th, 2008, 11:03 AM
hi,
i seem to be having trouble finding the pictures and patterns for the items on this site.
can anyone walk me through how to find these?
thanks,
wildernesswoman,

Shell
May 29th, 2008, 11:18 AM
hi,
i seem to be having trouble finding the pictures and patterns for the items on this site.
can anyone walk me through how to find these?
thanks,
wildernesswoman,
wildernesswoman I am a little unsure just what you are looking for, but please feel free to clarify

when you go to www.crochetville.org (http://www.crochetville.org) the page that opens is the main page, everything you need to navigate the site can be found there. when you scroll down that page there are blue bars, indicating different areas of the forum. The 4th one is Show-and-Tell, this is where people display the works they have made and want to show off. If under that blue bar you click the second one, Show-and-Tell Categories (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=201), you will see the entire catergorised list of show and tells, you can pick a category to browse.

Patterns that people at Crochetville have written require some further scrolling down the page at the 6th blue bar, Design Den. There are two ways people can post patterns at Crochetville. One they can type their entire pattern into a post (like how you asked your question) or they can just add a link to their patterns. These categories are called Free Original Patterns (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=29) and Free Original Patterns - Links (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=74).

If you're logging into Crochetville with no specific purpose, the quick links bar at the top of the screen, visible on every page, has the handiest link of all, New Posts (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/search.php?do=getnew). found in the middle of the second line. It will list all the threads since you last log into Crochetville (up to 500). It shows threads from every category you have access too. You can just browse those that catch your eye. (don't forget at the bottom right hand corner is the "page", you are usually one page 1, you can select a new page down there).

Another really handy link on the fixed bar where you found the New Posts thread is Search (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/search.php). You can use this to type a key word of something you're trying to find. You can also click that which opens a little drop down window, and from there select Advanced Search to further clarify where and what to search for.

All of the writing in my post that is blue are links you can click. This may help right away but it really would be best to familiarise yourself with the www.crochetville.org (http://www.crochetville.org) main page. Click around, see what is there. The forum may pop up every now and again and say you don't have access to something (some things require minimum post numbers and minimum membership time) but you wont be "in trouble" in anyway. They're just friendly tips really.

Your biggest help will be AmyS and Donna. They run Crochetville and are the most amazingly supportive and helpful ladies. You can open a Private Message (top right hand corner near where your name is will take you to that page) and type their user names just as I did in the "to" bit. You can also use the Members List (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/memberlist.php) (the fixed links bar on the top of every page) and search for them in the members list, open their profile (click their name), click the Contact Info tab, then hit "send private message".

I hope some of this helps. If I knew more specifically what you required help with I'd have centered my answer around that. You must be navigating the forum quite well thus far. You can always PM me too. I am from Australia so may not answer right away but I don't mind helping people out.

Best wishes :)

RoseRed
May 29th, 2008, 11:49 AM
People can't get it right with 6 sub-forums - do you really think they're going to do better with 30 ?!?

I'm sorry - but I think you guys went overboard on this one for many of the same reasons faedragon mentioned and a few of my own. It's just too many. The forum doesn't need to be over-regulated.

Are you going to keep thread movers 'on-staff' to move all the new stuff that's put in the wrong place?

Anyway - here is thought. Instead of different categories for ponchos and stuff - could you downsize it to "Outerwear" This would cover ponchos, jacket sweaters, capes, whatever. IT's just an idea.

Empress Busy Bee
May 29th, 2008, 12:32 PM
You're right Rose, some people are always going to get things wrong no matter what. However like I stated before, most people wanted the change so that's what happened. I'm sure it's here to stay at least for a few months to see how it works.

RoseRed
May 29th, 2008, 12:38 PM
Hi Sweetie, I have no problem with the change. I actually thing the change is a good thing. I just think that there's too many subcatagories - that's all.

Donna
May 29th, 2008, 12:40 PM
We did decide to get rid of the materials/techniques forums and only have item-type forums. (Now we have about 26 forums.) That eliminates most of the biggest overlap problems. But there will always be slight overlap no matter what.

Yes, we do intend to keep regular organizers. Most large forums have moderators to help keep things running smoothly, and bringing on some at Crochetville has been in the works for a long time.

Anyway - here is thought. Instead of different categories for ponchos and stuff - could you downsize it to "Outerwear" This would cover ponchos, jacket sweaters, capes, whatever. IT's just an idea. At first thought, this seems like a good idea, but it has it's own complications. When does a sweater become outerwear instead of regular clothing? Is accessories outerwear included (such as hats, scarves, etc.)? We currently only have two outerwear type of forums, (1) Shawls & Wraps and (2) Ponchos and there is enough interest in those two categories that they should be separate. That is part of what this is all about... what do people have interest in and how can we make information more accessible based on that?

The forum categories have been chosen carefully and thoroughly discussed, and discussion continues among the organizers and admins. However, if something doesn't work, we'll change it or won't keep it (as we did with the materials/techniques forums). But things won't constantly be in flux like they are now. As organizers are making their way through the forums, we're figuring out what works and what doesn't and things are settling into place.

Gran
May 29th, 2008, 12:46 PM
I know you all have put a lot of work into this, and I thank you for your efforts to make Crochetville an ever nicer, ever more useful Crochet-town.

I used to click on "Thread Crochet" in the Show-and-Tell dept. It was a one-stop exhibition for me, with occasional ventures into other show rooms. Doilies, etc. are now several rooms away from thread, so it will be an either/or for me.

Some of the new categories seems useful to me. Others seem to be too divided.

Could they be grouped so that there are main showrooms with sub-exhibitions? Ex:

Thread:

- doilies, tablerunners, etc.
- other threadwork

That way the eye could take in the overview and the detail simultaneously.

As it is, there is a great lot of detail with little visual framing within larger categories.

Just my two-cents worth.

Thanks again for taking on the re-designing of the showrooms.

RoseRed
May 29th, 2008, 01:01 PM
Oh - I just love Grans idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know if it's possible tho.

I commend you guys for this undertaking. We can all have ideas that may or may not work.

One thing that I am sure of is that however you guys do this - it'll be awesome!

I also think it's great that you'll be keeping mods on to keep everything in line. It is so cool to be here and watch C'ville grow into something even more amazing than it already is.

MimiFL
May 29th, 2008, 02:43 PM
My 2 cents. :)

First of all, thank you for getting rid of the materials/techniques!! :D That was my biggest problem with all this.

I think it's a lot easier to have afghans, for instance, separate from all the other 'home decor', so I like the change. It's especially helpful to have different categories for everything that used to be in 'other crochet'. :)

With that said, I do agree with Gran, that if some subforums could be grouped it would be even better. Don't know if that's feasible.

Also (and I think this could be done now), it would help if in the 'thread crochet' description, it could say something like 'this is for other thread crochet - things like pillow trims, applique flowers, ornaments, sachets, and the like'... since there is a doily category already. I had to visit 'thread crochet' to see how it was different from the doilies. :blush

And if it is for things other than doilies, there are still quite a few doilies in there that probably need to be moved... :think

amhmsh
May 29th, 2008, 07:01 PM
Hi Mimi.

Yes, there are still plenty of doilies to be moved. The thread forum has been a real bear to organize. We have 3 people working on that thread alone. And as Donna stated this is only the 1st day we have worked on moving things around.

Check back soon and we will hopefully have the majority moved to its proper place.

:hook:yes

MimiFL
May 29th, 2008, 08:00 PM
Great! I didn't mean to rush you, thought you guys were all done. :blush

Keep up the good work. :hook

Katchkan
May 29th, 2008, 08:21 PM
I like the idea of Doilies, Runners,etc, and then Other Threadwork. Seems like a better division.
Though personally I liked being able to check out all the threadwork in one place. But I will bend to the majority and adjust to the changes.

amhmsh
May 29th, 2008, 08:31 PM
Great! I didn't mean to rush you, thought you guys were all done. :blush

Keep up the good work. :hook


I wish it was done. The great part is I get to see all of YOUR beautiful doilies!!!:c9:c9
:yay

Sofia
May 29th, 2008, 08:58 PM
what a massive labor!

Thank you for a great job

Donna
May 30th, 2008, 12:52 AM
I used to click on "Thread Crochet" in the Show-and-Tell dept. It was a one-stop exhibition for me, with occasional ventures into other show rooms. Doilies, etc. are now several rooms away from thread, so it will be an either/or for me. One way to quickly visit all the places you like (anywhere on Crochetville, not just in Show-and-Tell) is to subscribe to that forum. When you subscribe, you can choose No Email Notification, and that way you won't be bothered with e-mails, but when you come to the forum, all the forums you subscribed to will be easily accessible from your User CP.

To subscribe to a forum, go to the main page of that forum, use the Forum Tools dropdown menu, and choose Subscribe to This Forum. You'll be taken to a page where you can choose your e-mail preference (no e-mail, daily, weekly).

Some of the new categories seems useful to me. Others seem to be too divided. We're open to suggestions! Please let us know which you'd like to see combined and we'll consider it.


Could they be grouped so that there are main showrooms with sub-exhibitions? Ex:

Thread:

- doilies, tablerunners, etc.
- other threadwork

That way the eye could take in the overview and the detail simultaneously. This is a good thought, but we already have had some complaints of there being too many forums. Further division into subforums takes things a level deeper and more complicated, too. Is this suggestion just for the Thread forum, or would you want to see it in other Show-and-Tell fourms as well?

As it is, there is a great lot of detail with little visual framing within larger categories. What are the larger categories you would like to see subdivided?

Donna
May 30th, 2008, 01:05 AM
First of all, thank you for getting rid of the materials/techniques!! :D That was my biggest problem with all this. I had some reservations about them before we started, and then when the organizers really dove in to work, we figured out that it just wasn't possible to have them.

With that said, I do agree with Gran, that if some subforums could be grouped it would be even better. Don't know if that's feasible. Let us know which you'd like to see grouped. And that goes for everybody... we will take your opinions into account! We can't please everybody, but we sure try. :D

Also (and I think this could be done now), it would help if in the 'thread crochet' description, it could say something like 'this is for other thread crochet - things like pillow trims, applique flowers, ornaments, sachets, and the like'... since there is a doily category already. I had to visit 'thread crochet' to see how it was different from the doilies. :blush We're still working, and thread is a forum that is really giving us problems. Many of the items in thread could easily go into other forums (such as Home Decor, Shawls, Doll Clothes, etc.). We're still grappling with how to deal with it. The basic problem is that it is one of the materials/techniques forums... the rest of which we got rid of. If we're getting rid of all materials/techniques forums in favor of item-type forums, then logically we shouldn't have a thread forum. But Thread Show-and-Tell has been around for a long time, so that makes it difficult. None of this is easy, but we're working it out as best we possibly can.

MimiFL
May 30th, 2008, 01:42 AM
Overlapping categories is one of the reasons I hate filing. :yuck

DreamsOfYarn
May 30th, 2008, 01:46 AM
I hear ya!!!!

Every time we think we have it figured out, 10 things pop up to wreck havoc on us :lol

Shell
May 30th, 2008, 11:57 AM
Donna you are the most politically correct person I know. I commend you wholeheartedly for allowing us to have a say and not being a behind the scenes boss. Though, I can see the luxury of the afore-mentioned :D Very few other websites would tollerate the discussion, never contemplate asking for ideas and suggestions. They'd just do what they thought was needed and we'd have to live with it. I thank you for being so gracious with us and hope people remember to respect this rare privelidge. I for one like having a say and I would hate to see it revoked in future to avoid confrontation

Gran
May 31st, 2008, 07:09 AM
I do miss having all the thread work in one place. I like seeing all the different things made of thread. There are not so many posts in this area that it is cumbersome to look at all the posts in one category.

I don't know about the other show-and-tell categories. I only looked at them occasionally and nothing bothered me about the way they were. I thought they were fine. Maybe the regular-visitors to those categories could consider how the things they look at most often could be grouped together.

I'm putting my vote in for thread to be consolidated into one showroom!

Granny Square
May 31st, 2008, 06:51 PM
Thank you for adding the 'super groupings'! Much better! :applause I know it is hard to make everybody happy. I wasn't sure about the plethora of categories at first either, but then I found myself looking at more things than I was before, which is fun. Now with the groupings, Thread is all in on place for Gran (and we other threadies) ;)

Riohnna
May 31st, 2008, 07:09 PM
Pretty cool. I really like what has been done! Very much. Thank you!

Gran
May 31st, 2008, 09:08 PM
Granny Square, according to what I've just seen, there are now three show-and-tell places for thread.

Donna
May 31st, 2008, 10:02 PM
Granny Square, according to what I've just seen, there are now three show-and-tell places for thread. Yes, but they are all grouped together in one place. When you are in Show-and-Tell Categories (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=201), if you click on the header Thread Crochet (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=248), you will be taken to a page that contains all three thread subforums and nothing else.

Donna
May 31st, 2008, 11:10 PM
Thank you all so much for your input! We really do listen to your opinions. If your way is better than ours, we'll do it if at all possible.

I'm glad the "super groupings" (I like that term!) or "header categories" (as I've been calling them) are getting a positive response. A couple of people suggested grouping subforums together, but it was Katchkan (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/member.php?u=709) who made it become a reality.

I had been thinking of these groupings as requiring another level of subforums, which I didn't want to do because I thought it would make navigation more difficult. But Katchkan sent me a complete layout of Show-and-Tell as she envisioned it, incorporating the existing forums as well as better divisions for thread. While reading through her layout, it just clicked for me that I could (I hoped!) do it without the sub-subforums. I did change various parts of the arrangement of forums from what she sent (so I take full responsibility for anything you all don't like! :D), but the basic idea was hers.

I had to do some digging and figuring to tweak the vBulletin code to make it work just right, but that's part of my job!

We now have 25 Show-and-Tell forums organized under six headings. They're grouped together in a logical way instead of alphabetically like before. And we have some smart, creative, and helpful people around here. Thank you all for your input! :clap

And thank you Katchkan! :clap

Katchkan
May 31st, 2008, 11:51 PM
Glad to have been of help :yes You were on the right track I just remapped it for you.

Julia from NorCal
June 2nd, 2008, 10:37 PM
I can't believe you have devised a new way for me to spend more time in here.

:hyper

Now I know what I'm doing tonight.

:ccompute


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Ladycrochat
June 5th, 2008, 08:37 PM
It seems overwhelming at first, but I am sure it will be very easy to navigate once we get used to it!:) I can remember the first day that I stumbled into crochetville.....it was all so confusing for me, but with time I have learned to bop:bounce around this place very well! I think if we all just give a chance....we will soon be wondering how we ever managed in the past!;)

CrochetDad
June 8th, 2008, 04:29 PM
Well, at first, I thought "OH NO! Now I have to learn something new".

I've kind of gotten used to the new format, although I'm sure I'll miss a really nice project in a subcategory that isn't really one of my prime interests. :eek

Many thanks for all the work that went into converting the threads over to the new categories. I'm sure that took an amazing amount of work. :clap

Krystal16
June 30th, 2008, 08:36 PM
I usually just go in through my Control Panel, so I often miss things in the general area that is outside the threads I subscribe to. (This is deliberate, otherwise I would not ever get up off of my duff, I would LIVE inside C'Ville)

Anyway, I just stumbled on this, and I have to say that the way it is right now is very neat and organized, it is straightforward and logical.

Kudos to all the people who had a part in its design and implementation. :clap

Eliea
July 28th, 2008, 01:53 PM
I know I'm late jumping on the bandwagon but I love this change. I had such a hard time finding things I liked to look at before and this will help me narrow it down. thanks for everyone's hard work!

GurleyGirl
July 31st, 2008, 09:12 AM
Is there any ability to have a button on the forums/subforums that let's you "check all forums read" without you having to go into each folder and clicking it there?

Donna
July 31st, 2008, 09:44 AM
Is there any ability to have a button on the forums/subforums that let's you "check all forums read" without you having to go into each folder and clicking it there? Yes, this is available for every forum on Crochetville. Above the list of threads in any forum, on the right-hand side, use the Forum Tools dropdown menu and choose Mark This Forum Read. The reason this may not be apparent at first glance in the Show-and-Tell Categories (http://www.crochetville.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=201) forum is because the list of subforums is displayed before the menu bar that has the Forum Tools dropdown menu and the list of threads. This display order is true for all forums, however, because Show-and-Tell Categories has so many subforums, it's not as noticeable since you have to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page for it.

GurleyGirl
July 31st, 2008, 01:29 PM
This display order is true for all forums, however, because Show-and-Tell Categories has so many subforums, it's not as noticeable since you have to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page for it.

Thanks Donna. It was in the Show & Tell for me that I couldn't find it. ;) However, is there anyway to mark the whole forum read without going into every subform? For example anyway to have this function on the right side of the main page of the forum without having to go into each subforum? (i.e. marking all of "Town Hall" read without having to go into Introduce Yourself, Crochet forum guidelines, Board Announcements, etc and marking them read from each grouping?)

Clear?

Donna
July 31st, 2008, 03:31 PM
As long as the area you want to mark read is an actual forum, you can do it as I described above. But for categories (that are not actual forums), unfortunately, you can't mark the whole category read.

So you can't mark Town Hall, Community Center, Show-and-Tell, Clinic, Design Den, etc., etc. read. But you can mark Show-and-Tell Categories read (even though the word "categories" is in the title, it is not acting as a category, it is acting as a forum).

So I guess the short answer is that if an area has the Forum Tools dropdown menu, you can mark it all read, but if it does not have that, you can't.

Donna
July 31st, 2008, 03:34 PM
I forgot to say that I do think it is a great idea to be able to mark categories read! But I did some research on this a while back and it doesn't seem that vBulletin has the intention of adding this feature to the software, and we are limited to the features that are offered.

GurleyGirl
July 31st, 2008, 03:42 PM
Ok thanks for checking.